(I still do like Burton's, however.)
Be sure to click on "full version" so you don't have to read the teeny-tiny print.
Here's a really good point he makes:
He's spot on there--Jon Peters and Peter Guber (Guber-Peters) were at Warners then and had a lot of power over stuff like that, even with Burton directing. (Burton wasn't a big wheel then at all) They thought Burton's ideas for Batman made him "wussman" and thus wanted him to act in a more action-hero type way.26. "You wanna get nuts? Let's get nuts!" I can not imagine Bruce Wayne, billionaire industrialist, playboy, genius and philanthropist, ever saying this phrase or acting this way. Not to the Joker, not to anybody. This is another example of Sam Hamm's awful understanding of the character. Several more examples of un-Brucelike dialogue can be found throughout the movie. It's as if Hamm were writing dialogue for a Kurt Russell action flick.
24. There was absolutely no mention of how the Joker knew about or got his hands on the Smilex formula... Just a military dossier that he apparently found (stole? bought?) and a factory (how did he get control of a factory, anyway?) where he produced it and shipped it to stores. Several questions arise from this: Who worked in the factory? (He didn't have enough goons to run a whole factory.) Who shipped the products to stores? Who the hell was the scientist guy in the factory whom Joker yelled at? Wouldn't the police think it unusual that a factory that was abandoned is now operating, and if it wasn't abandoned, wouldn't one of the hundreds of factory workers tip off the cops as to the fate of their job? Where did the Joker get the raw materials for his products, which included soap, shampoo, deodorant, make-up, hair spray and other personal goods? This was a huge plot hole left unchecked. Thankfully, Batman came in and BLEW UP THE FACTORY and everyone in it, rather than leaving anyone to be arrested or escape the Joker's grasp.
Sounds like sloppy editing and deleted scenes to me.....
One more really good point:
Exactly, and Chris Nolan was the first director smart enough to fully realise this in his movie.28. I need to emphasize this: Batman intentionally killed the Joker. He would never do this. He has never done this. Even when the Joker has been in deadly situations, Batman has tried to save his life rather than letting him perish. He would not kill the Joker just to prevent him from escaping, and Bruce would have to know that tying a man on a helicopter ladder to a chunk of masonry would be a deadly situation. Batman murdered people throughout the entire movie, which is NOT what Batman does. He's a hero, even if he is a frightening figure.
BTW Kim Basinger was pretty involved with Jon Peters then, which is probably what got her more screen time. (which unfortunately did nothing for the movie.)
