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Yeah, espicially with the treatment Meet The Robinsons got. Too bad none of the theatres near me will have this, though.
Here's our original AD/Bolt thread: American Dog / BOLT.
Here's our original AD/Bolt thread: American Dog / BOLT.
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I hope they do too!
Twisted geniuses getting creative control under Stainton? No offense, but this just doesn't jibe. Sanders getting more free reign on Lilo was a total anomaly--and thank goodness Sanders did, since many animation fans DO like that film.
He happened to be a favorite of Schumacker (who was running WDFA at the time) so yes, he got more creative control. But he was a pretty rare exception.
Stephen Anderson, Ron 'n John, Kirk and Gary and Mark Dindal did not have anywhere near the full opportunity to "strut their stuff" as directors since the Disney regime (execs) at the time constantly made notes and told them to change things.....(which apparently isn't all that different from what's going on now.) And all those "cancelled projects" sounded very cool to me....they were never even made, so how could we possibly know they were "half-baked"?
Now, of course we do have to take into consideration the fact that it's Pixar who's running WDFA now, not Stainton and Schumacker, so, it's pretty safe to wager that they've got good advice and ideas for the older guys. (at least better than the Eisner regime did)
It just feels that there's a huge divide between how Pixar artists are treated and how Disney artists are. I don't know if this is true or not--just a feeling I get. In an interview, let's say, someone like Brad Bird, Andrew Stanton, Pete Doctor are described in reverential terms by Lassetter. When you hear him talking about someone like Stephen Anderson or Chris Sanders, it doesn't feel like he's talking about accomplished directors for Disney but.....first time animation students who need to be reigned in. Would he treat Pixar directors like that? I'm not alleging anything, just trying to put across why some animation fans are (a bit) skeptical of Pixar's actions.
Um, sorry Sanders feels that way, but most animation fans see the Pixar group-system as one of the better innovations at the new regime (and quick to point how it saved "Meet the Robinsons" from certain disaster), and that it was "twisted geniuses" under Stainton that gave us so many half-baked and/or cancelled projects in the first place.
Twisted geniuses getting creative control under Stainton? No offense, but this just doesn't jibe. Sanders getting more free reign on Lilo was a total anomaly--and thank goodness Sanders did, since many animation fans DO like that film.
He happened to be a favorite of Schumacker (who was running WDFA at the time) so yes, he got more creative control. But he was a pretty rare exception.
Stephen Anderson, Ron 'n John, Kirk and Gary and Mark Dindal did not have anywhere near the full opportunity to "strut their stuff" as directors since the Disney regime (execs) at the time constantly made notes and told them to change things.....(which apparently isn't all that different from what's going on now.) And all those "cancelled projects" sounded very cool to me....they were never even made, so how could we possibly know they were "half-baked"?
Now, of course we do have to take into consideration the fact that it's Pixar who's running WDFA now, not Stainton and Schumacker, so, it's pretty safe to wager that they've got good advice and ideas for the older guys. (at least better than the Eisner regime did)
It just feels that there's a huge divide between how Pixar artists are treated and how Disney artists are. I don't know if this is true or not--just a feeling I get. In an interview, let's say, someone like Brad Bird, Andrew Stanton, Pete Doctor are described in reverential terms by Lassetter. When you hear him talking about someone like Stephen Anderson or Chris Sanders, it doesn't feel like he's talking about accomplished directors for Disney but.....first time animation students who need to be reigned in. Would he treat Pixar directors like that? I'm not alleging anything, just trying to put across why some animation fans are (a bit) skeptical of Pixar's actions.
You are? Wow, that's just awesome! So I guess that means you work at DW then? You sound very knowledgeable, I really hope you post more here!
All I can really do is speak on the things I know first hand. I happen to know Chris and am currently working with him on his new film.
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Exclusive!!
The first pic was just released on RopeOfSilicon.com which has published the 2008's calendar of upcoming Walt Disney movies.
A synopsis and a logo are attached too.
So here's the final look of Bolt, also with Rhino and Mittens.
The first pic was just released on RopeOfSilicon.com which has published the 2008's calendar of upcoming Walt Disney movies.
A synopsis and a logo are attached too.
So here's the final look of Bolt, also with Rhino and Mittens.
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Keep in mind, that most of the concept art we saw for the film before, was when it was originally titled American Dog and still had Chris Sanders at the helm. IIRC, they featured techniques such as non-photorealistic rendering, which gave it that special visual appearence.
The look for Bolt so far is cute, but I agree, I am a bit dissapointed.
The look for Bolt so far is cute, but I agree, I am a bit dissapointed.
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