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Post by **Ben** » April 14th, 2007, 10:59 am

I don't think he's thought that out either, though...

SR is a loose sequel to Supes II, for which Luthor WAS in jail for the crimes he committed againts the Californian coast. He got out, and ended up at the Daily Planet, then taken to the Fortress Of Solitude.

Depending on whichever version you see, we don't really know how Luthor got back from there, but one must assume that Supes turned him over to the authorities.

I think in SR it is explained that the wealthy old lady petitioned for his release or something stupid like that, which is just as stupid but at least gave a reason. Quite why Supes on returning to Earth didn't just lock Luthor up again is a mystery.

The film defies any explanation and was as poorly thought out as it was made.

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 14th, 2007, 6:10 pm

The film defies any explanation and was as poorly thought out as it was made.

I still really wish they'd consider Kevin Smith as director for the next one....if there is a next one.

I think in SR it is explained that the wealthy old lady petitioned for his release or something stupid like that, which is just as stupid but at least gave a reason. Quite why Supes on returning to Earth didn't just lock Luthor up again is a mystery.

Yeah, the old woman, I thought about that too, but wasn't sure if she got him out of prison or just gave him all her money when she died....(eww....that part was so unbelievably crass, and what the heck was with those two creepy dogs licking each other during that scene and then one apparently having eaten the other later in the film....?! )

But what I think that guy was getting at was that just because the courts don't have Superman around to testify doesn't mean they wouldn't lock up Lex Luthor after all the s*** he's pulled over the years....wouldn't they have a ton of his other victims, like, say, anyone living in the state of California, to testify against Lex?

It makes no sense but conforms to the film's depressing underlying subtext about how nothing Supes did really mattered....

At least that was my interpretation....

Also, one more thing: (and maybe this was answered in a deleted scene)

Why does Lex Luthor say to Supes before stabbing him with the Kryptonite: "You took away five years of my life....I'm just trying to return the favor!" Huh? Supes was gone for five years, Lex was ostentibly in jail for some of those years, then freed when Supes didn't show up for the trial....? Never mind, you're right Ben, this film makes no sense at all and has such a visible contempt for its audience it boggles the mind....

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 24th, 2007, 11:06 pm

Kryptonite real??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070424/od_ ... kryptonite

(They didn't mention it in the story I don't think, but technically there is a chemical called "Krypton."

)

http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/kr.html

Post by **Ben** » April 25th, 2007, 7:36 am

They should have called it Kryptonite 2.0 or something, for fun.

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 25th, 2007, 8:20 pm

They should have called it Kryptonite 2.0 or something, for fun. Smile

(*Taking it way too seriously*

)
Yeah but then everyone would get confused and think that was the atomic weight/number....

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 28th, 2007, 8:23 pm

More Kevin Smith on Superman Returns!!

(Akron University)

Warning: Profanity, and VERY LOUD SOUND.

I personally think he takes it easy on Bryan A LOT, I'm sure he's got lots more opinions but not even KS is completely fearless:

It's one thing to diss aborted films that have never been made by people who are no longer even (for the most part) associated with those films, it's quite another to diss a filmmaker still very much in Hollywood, still making that current series...

Not even KS is that brave...

Post by **Ben** » April 29th, 2007, 7:07 am

"Lex Luthor did more punching in that movie than Superman".

"Jon Peters was right".

Classic comments.

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 29th, 2007, 7:39 am

Title for sequel:

"Superman Kicks Much A**, we promise!"

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 29th, 2007, 7:37 pm

I also liked this:

EXCUSE STUDY #2 - Superman Was Not Stalking. He Was Checking Up On Lois.
by Dr_T_Weintraub (Wed Jan 10 2007 18:59:13)

EXCUSE STUDY #2 - Superman Was Not Stalking. He Was Checking Up On Lois.

By Dr. Thomas Weintraub
Monday, January 8, 2006

In Superman Returns, Bryan Singer's Superman follows Lois without her permission and commits various other acts of stalking that are evident in the film. The scenes that demonstrate this are:

- Bryan Singer’s Superman using his X-Ray vision to monitor what Lois, Richard, and Jason are doing at dinner time, and also using Super-Hearing to hear their conversation, all the while, doing this while standing outside their home.

- Bryan Singer's Superman, while disguised as Bryan Singer's Clark Kent, walks nonchalantly around the Daily Planet and secretly listens in on a conversation that his lost love, Lois, is having with her new man, Richard.

- In another scene, Bryan Singer's Clark Kent uses his X-Ray vision to spy on Lois while she is in the elevator and on her way to the roof to smoke a cigarette. Bryan Signer’s Kent subsequently follows her to the roof top, this time, disguised as Bryan Singer’s Superman.

Now, there have been many people who have said that this is simply Bryan Singer's Superman/Clark Kent "checking up on Lois to see if she is okay." Well, Bryan Singer's Clark Kent is introduced to Lois and Richard and Jason early on in the film. Singer's Kent is told of what Lois has been up to, who is Richard and what he does, and is also told of their son. He is also jealous of how Lois and Richard are so bubbly with each other how much they love each other.

However, Bryan Singer's Superman/Clark Kent has an insatiable and unhealthy thirst for Lois; it has become an obsession that is taking him over and making him look like a cry-baby, instead of the strong-willed and confident Superman that we all know and love. But "fans" of this movie do not see this perversion of Superman/Clark Kent. Rather, they circumnavigate the "Obsessive" and "Stalker" scenes and act as if they don't exist.

Keep in mind, a Stalker is someone that stalks. They don't have to be perverts, murderers or anything of that nature. I repeat: A Stalker is someone who stalks -- following someone without their knowledge. With that being said, and by using the evidence of Bryan Singer's Superman/Clark Kent being a Stalker in this film, the excuse by "fans" still remains:

EXCUSE #2: Superman Was Not Stalking, He Was Checking Up On Lois

If you still stand-by EXCUSE #2, then this is what I want you to do:

- Go to an ex-lover's house. Stand outside and look through their window while they chat and eat dinner. Also, try to listen in on their dinner conversation. Do all of this without their knowledge.

- Sneak into your ex-lover's son's bedroom through an open window, caress his head, and whisper sweet things into his ear. Do all of this without anyone’s knowledge.

- Call the cops and tell them what you just did. Call you ex-lover and tell him/her what you just did. If you are not arrested or don’t have some form of legal action taken against you, then you are off the hook and what Bryan Singer's Superman/Clark Kent did in the film is justified. However, if you do have some form of legal action taken against you, then you will realize that what Bryan Singer's Superman did was illegal and perverse and completely out of character.

Thank You. -- Dr. T. Weintraub

"You can't spell impossible without possible" - Dr. Thomas Weintraub (Me)

Post by **Ben** » April 30th, 2007, 7:20 am

More good comments. The film just didn't work.

Post by **ShyViolet** » April 30th, 2007, 9:16 pm

"Lex Luthor did more punching in that movie than Superman".

"Jon Peters was right".

Classic comments. Smile

Giant Spider pronto!!!

Post by **Ben** » July 22nd, 2007, 5:00 pm

I don't know when Smallville's latest season aired in the US, but it's just starting here tonight after a long wait.

Now THIS is Superman. For all the twists and turns they've introduced and playing with the mythology the guys making this series should have really been behind the Superman movie.

They get the characters, they know the movies: tonight opener with Zod's taking over Earth is great (typing this in commercials!) with several nice lines of dialogue taken from Supes II, and a very nice throwback to the "28 known galaxies".

It's such a shame that they couldn't run this series into a new bunch of movies...Welling is a much more charismatic Kal-El than Routh, everything is tied together and directed much better than the Returns fiasco, and the only frustrating thing is how close they obviously want to get to using the Williams score but have been curbed off that by the movies. Season three or four actually used the Superman theme, but they withdrew it on subsequent seasons, which is a real shame.

And the kid whi just turned up as Jimmy Olsen might be the best guy to fills those shoes on screen ever. He seems very familliar...trying to place him...but he's perfect. Nice intro scene between him and "CK"!

K...it's back on...gotta go! But I'm loving this!

Post by **Josh** » July 22nd, 2007, 9:06 pm

Ben wrote:And the kid whi just turned up as Jimmy Olsen might be the best guy to fills those shoes on screen ever. He seems very familliar...trying to place him...but he's perfect.

You might be thinking of his twin brother, Shawn Ashmore, who portrayed Bobby Drake/Iceman in the X-Men trilogy.

Post by **Ben** » July 23rd, 2007, 3:02 am

Ahh, yes...good catch Josh!

Anyhoo, he's a great Jimmy. Perhaps too young for the Singer films, but then again, Marc McClure was pretty young when he was in The Movie, and since the rest of the cast is so young too it might'a worked. Better than gay-Jimmy they ended up with. No one at the Daily Planet was cast right in that film, especially Perry "Hippie" White.

Post by **ShyViolet** » July 23rd, 2007, 3:41 am

I also thought the Returns Jimmy looked older than Clark!