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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » June 30th, 2023, 8:07 pm

Is there some conspiracy that Pixar controls the American animation industry? Did Pixar sabotage Foodfight! and Alpha and Omega because they knew they were going to be huge successes? Also, did Disney refuse to market the Studio Ghibli films out of fear of them breaking out in the United States?

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Ben » June 30th, 2023, 8:42 pm

No. To all.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » June 30th, 2023, 9:03 pm

Is there any hope for independent animation?

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Ben » July 1st, 2023, 11:04 am

Yes. Always.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by EricJ » July 1st, 2023, 11:55 am

GeffreyDrogon wrote:
June 30th, 2023, 8:07 pm
Did Pixar sabotage Foodfight!?
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...No.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Dacey » July 1st, 2023, 4:30 pm

Okay, Eric, you made me smile with that post.
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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » July 1st, 2023, 5:31 pm

It's amusing with how troubled Foodfight's production was, and the mysterious circumstances with the disappearance of the original files. It's the complete opposite of the whole Toy Story 2 incident.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » July 27th, 2023, 8:02 pm

When I always browse Cartoon Brew, I find it repetitive and annoying how so many of the commentors have a bias against mainstream American animation. They always want a foreign independent animated film to be nominated, and get upset when one doesn't.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Ben » July 27th, 2023, 8:10 pm

Nothing wrong with that. They’re often more interesting than the cookie-cutter CG films.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » July 28th, 2023, 9:29 pm

Then why doesn't the Academy nominate any foreign animated films then?

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by ShyViolet » July 28th, 2023, 9:37 pm

Actually, it has quite often: two examples are Spirited Away (2003) and Paprika (2007).

Also, a ton of shorts have been nominated: don’t forget about “Creature Comforts” and “The Wrong Trousers” from Aardman.
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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by GeffreyDrogon » July 28th, 2023, 9:51 pm

Spirited Away came out in 2001.

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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by ShyViolet » July 28th, 2023, 10:10 pm

Oops! :oops: Sorry about that. I didn’t see it until ‘03 so I got a bit confused. Lol.

Anyway, I still stand by my points. :)
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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Dacey » July 28th, 2023, 10:16 pm

Paprika wasn’t nominated either. :wink:

But it has gotten a lot of replays in my house this year. It’s great fun.
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Re: The state and future of animation

Post by Ben » July 29th, 2023, 3:40 am

GeffreyDrogon wrote:
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Then why doesn't the Academy nominate any foreign animated films then?
Because at the end of the day, AMPAS is an American organisation originally founded to promote Hollywood product. Despite their growing reach in the decades since and the semi-facade of global inclusivity and wanting to reward that "art", the Oscars still really is about promoting that same Hollywood product. Other countries have their own awards at which their homegrown films get recognition.

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