The state and future of animation

[EricJ]

Hey, they tried to make us care about Ice Age: Buck Wild.

[GeffreyDrogon]

I wonder how Don Bluth's live-action Dragon's Lair coproduced with Ryan Reynolds is going?

I sure do know that there's no way Bluth can compete with the modern animation industry.

[GeffreyDrogon]

Why do so many Disney Renaissance directors do so many crap animated movies these days, despite famously directing films like The Lion King or The Little Mermaid?

[Farerb]

What crappy animated movies did The Little Mermaid's directors directed?!

[Ben]

And before Eric says Treasure Planer, the question was "these days", although The Little Mermaid is a bad example: Farerb is right in that Ron 'n' John have never made a "crap" movie.

I think he means the likes of Rob Minkoff and Kirk Wise, both of whom have made DTV level fare after the heights of their Academy Award-winning heydays at Disney and elsewhere.

In short, and has been said before, everybody’s gotta eat.

[EricJ]

And before Eric says Treasure Planer, the question was "these days", although The Little Mermaid is a bad example: Farerb is right in that Ron 'n' John have never made a "crap" movie.

(And before Eric says "Princess & the Frog"... )

I think the question was more towards, yes, Glen Keane wanted independence as Disney changed (and certainly after losing his "Rapunzel"), but...WHY "Over the Moon"??

[ShyViolet]

And before Eric says Treasure Planer, the question was "these days", although The Little Mermaid is a bad example: Farerb is right in that Ron 'n' John have never made a "crap" movie.

(And before Eric says "Princess & the Frog"... )

Princess was heavily supervised by Lasetter.

[Farerb]

The Princess and the Frog might not be perfect but it is far from crap. I prefer it to any of the Revival films with the exception of Moana.

[Ben]

I liked Over The Moon. The first act is lovely, with a couple of really nice little songs, and the second half…well, you didn’t see that coming did you? As close to a CG version of Pepperland as we're ever likely to see, and as broad as it felt, it was also unique and original. We need this and Klaus on disc!

[GeffreyDrogon]

Why do Pixar, DreamWorks Animation, and Disney dominate all of animation? Why can't the US government fund animation programs to develop the animation industry outside of California?

[Ben]

Well, they don’t, for one thing.

And because no one has any money.

[GeffreyDrogon]

Everyone likes to say that Disney has been struggling with animated films recently, but wait until Zootopia 2 comes out. Zootopia 2 is probably going to outgross Illumination's Super Mario Bros because it has a huge fanbase and first film already being a very popular movie to begin with.

[EricJ]

Or, it's going to go wrong and drop the ball, like Finding Dory, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and...okay, I liked Frozen II, but Ben will probably chime in on that.

[Farerb]

I didn't care for either Finding Dory or Frozen II. That doesn't change the fact that both managed to gross more than a billion dollars each.

[Ben]

"And remember, kids, it doesn’t matter if it’s no good. It only matters if it makes money!"