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And what about those stuck up and self-aggrandizing Disney folks who but a blatant reference to themselves in the trailer itself! They couldn't even wait to just do it in the film!Ben wrote:I don't know. That trailer just looks like a bunch of unconnected scenes that don't really pass as an overall story.


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Yeah, that's why I couldn't really think of anything to say about it per se...although trailers can be misleading.Actually you have a point, even if you were joking. The teaser seems really thrown together to me...

I just didn't seem to understand what the central oonflict is, but I'm sure there is one.
Also, for a minute when I saw "TodayLand" it looked like "ToyLand"!


EDIT: That's "March of the Wooden Soldiers". DOTWS is the Tchaikovsky piece.

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So was Shrek.
Yes, which explains why it was the first movie to win the "Best Animated Film" Oscar, and the first animated film to premiere at Cannes in many, many, years. (not since Dumbo I think.)


I can't remember, but I don't think any Pixar film, even Incredibles, ever premiered at Cannes.
(Wonder if Ratatouille will?


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Yes, which explains why it also won the "Best Animated Film" Academy Award!ShyViolet wrote: So was Finding Nemo.
Seriously though, Shrek and Finding Nemo are very similar films, structure-wise.
Cannes is a film festival. Studios submit films to be shown there. Sony could have screened Open Season there if they had entered it! If Pixar wanted to premiere a film there, they could do so easily - but they would probably consider it a kind of stuck up and self-aggrandizing way to do it!ShyViolet wrote:first animated film to premiere at Cannes in many, many, years. (not since Dumbo I think.) I can't remember, but I don't think any Pixar film, even Incredibles, ever premiered at Cannes. (Wonder if Ratatouille will?)

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Seriously though, "Finding Nemo" IS, you could fairly argue, somewhat episodic. Its really just a series of adventures with Marlin and Dory encountering various characters and, usually, never running into them again.
"Shrek" had a very tight storyline. Now, you could say that the sequel was a "Series of events", if you wanted to. When I first saw it, I myself said that it may have been "Less focused" than the original.
But "Nemo" had so much heart, and "Shrek 2" stays funny with repeated viewings, so who's complaining?
"Shrek" had a very tight storyline. Now, you could say that the sequel was a "Series of events", if you wanted to. When I first saw it, I myself said that it may have been "Less focused" than the original.
But "Nemo" had so much heart, and "Shrek 2" stays funny with repeated viewings, so who's complaining?

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I think Shrek (the First) was very episodic as well, and other than content, is similar to Nemo:
- meet the characters
- set up the conflict that creates the quest
- a character that the protagonist considers annoying tags along
- have several episodic adventures that are really irrelevant to the plot itself other than to give some character development
- rescue the annoying character
- fulfill the quest
- happy ending
- win an Oscar
Not implying that is a bad outline. But as it is followed by both films, you can't really complain that one is episodic and the other is tight!
- meet the characters
- set up the conflict that creates the quest
- a character that the protagonist considers annoying tags along
- have several episodic adventures that are really irrelevant to the plot itself other than to give some character development
- rescue the annoying character
- fulfill the quest
- happy ending
- win an Oscar
Not implying that is a bad outline. But as it is followed by both films, you can't really complain that one is episodic and the other is tight!
Not me! I liked both films! (Hated Shrek 1 though!)But "Nemo" had so much heart, and "Shrek 2" stays funny with repeated viewings, so who's complaining
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Here's part 2 of the TAG story:
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... ing-2.html
Love that site! And Kevin Koch is awesome! (I don't know him, I just like how he writes.
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http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... ing-2.html

Love that site! And Kevin Koch is awesome! (I don't know him, I just like how he writes.


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