DreamWorks' SHREK

[Dacey]

*waves magic wand*

There. That was fun.

Eric, please take the chill pill, before you get this "girl" mad.

[Daniel]

In honor of its 20th anniversary, the original is coming out on 4K. Now you can really see how dated the animation is.

[Dacey]

Pretty neat they're including all of the various specials.

[EricJ]

Now you can really see how dated the animation is.

Looking at the Robin Hood "Riverdance" moment, I thought the CGI animation was dated even back THEN.
(Not to mention, the gag was outdated back then, too.)

[ShyViolet]

The real heart of that movie is the relationship between Fiona and Shrek, plus Donkey and Shrek. (Even the Fiona/Donkey bond was sweet.). But boy, I do have to admit, 95% of the references (not jokes) are SO dated! I mean the Macarena, SmashMouth, the Matrix: how late 90s/early 21st century can you get?? (I do still love SmashMouth though! Lol )

*Also, how come we never saw Fiona use her Matrix skills again? Ha.

[Dacey]

Matrix still gets referenced today, for better or for worst.

Heck Disney Junior’s Mickey and the Cars That Go Vroom even spoofed it—and it was kind of funny!

[Ben]

The Matrix is such a cultural touchstone that it will still be being referenced for years to come.

I bet you Matrix 4 references it next year.

[EricJ]

*Also, how come we never saw Fiona use her Matrix skills again? Ha.

Because John Lasseter came back to Disney, so all of a sudden Disney princesses were "okay" again, and Katzenberg's feminist-kissup anti-princess jokes to throw at Michael Eisner turned stale overnight?
That's probably why we never saw any of the other "Princess-Fu" scenes after #2.

[Dacey]

Except for, you know, that entire subplot involving Fiona getting the other princesses to fight in Shrek the Third.

And Fiona being a warrior princess in Forever After.

[EricJ]

Oh, thank you. I KNEW Jeff wouldn't give up on his chick-kissups so easily, since he knew they were singlehandedly supporting the studio after women were the only ones to laugh at Fiona's jokes in the first movie.
That's how we got most of Monsters vs. Aliens, after all.

[Dacey]

Well that's all nonsense...

Also we do have a lot of women who read our forum, Eric. Just throwin' that out there.

[Otis8]

Like that means anything to a hater...

[Daniel]

Considering it has never been quote-fingers "denied" (cringe) I'm inclined to believe there's truth to it.

[ShyViolet]

FWIW, I actually always felt the “kick-a** princesses” thing in the Shrek films was really tired, even, to some degree, in the original Shrek. And ESPECIALLY in 3. (Also having Julie Andrews/the Queen be one of them just didn’t feel right for some reason! )

[Dacey]

Weirdly enough, in Shrek 2, Fiona's headbutt of Prince Charming which gets a big laugh was changed to a karate chop in the UK. I guess the headbutt was deemed too "violent", but it's definitely funnier.



Also weirdly enough, regarding Shrek the Third, Snow White unleashing Hell on a bunch of fairy tale villains via woodland creatures is a highlight of that movie for me, along with the "Gingey's life flashing before his eyes" gag.