Batman: The Animated Series
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Yeah, I noticed that to Vi. Whenever I get HBO for free, they always show it, and the few times I've seen it, it was the version I own
Now you can see why I was so in the dark
That doesn't make sence in all actuality though. Sure the print thing might be a factor, but don't you think HBO should be entitled to receive it? I mean, they show everything else uncut, why not BB?
Darn you HBO!
Now you can see why I was so in the dark
That doesn't make sence in all actuality though. Sure the print thing might be a factor, but don't you think HBO should be entitled to receive it? I mean, they show everything else uncut, why not BB?
Darn you HBO!
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The executives who make those decisions might not even know that that's the censored cut. Very few "regular" or non animation-loving people know about the whole censored/uncensored issues of BB: ROTJ. If they know about the film at all.
Of course the WB execs most likely know about it, but HBO? I doubt it.
That's how I got to see the censored version (AFTER I saw my own DVD) and I was like: "This is lame!"
You'll really like the uncut version Dan!
Of course the WB execs most likely know about it, but HBO? I doubt it.
That's how I got to see the censored version (AFTER I saw my own DVD) and I was like: "This is lame!"
You'll really like the uncut version Dan!
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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I really didn't know about the whole censored/uncensored version until I saw it at Wal-mart (which you guessed btw )
I guess that would explain why they don't air, weired, but oh well.
I guess that would explain why they don't air, weired, but oh well.
Lame? From what I've 'uncovered' that's an understatementShyViolet wrote:That's how I got to see the censored version (AFTER I saw my own DVD) and I was like: "This is lame!"
If you think that, than I know I willShyViolet wrote: You'll really like the uncut version Dan!
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It could well be that HBO are <I>well</I> aware of running the censored cut and that fan reaction will be to start discussing it online and ending up with having more copies of the uncut edition fly off DVD shelves!
Isn't the uncut version supposed to be exclusive to DVD? The only reason I never picked it up was the frame ratio issues I seem to remember. Wasn't it originally 1.33 and they cropped it to 1.78 to make it more like a "movie"...?
Isn't the uncut version supposed to be exclusive to DVD? The only reason I never picked it up was the frame ratio issues I seem to remember. Wasn't it originally 1.33 and they cropped it to 1.78 to make it more like a "movie"...?
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This is ALWAYS debated but Bruce Timms has said (and says it in his commentary which I think is only on the unedited version) that it was framed and directed to be viewed letterboxed and that's why he picked that aspect ratio for the DVD (it isn't anamorphically enhanced which is what bugs me). Of course the debate is that the full frame was animated but IMHo that's not what was intended to be shown so it doesn't bug meBen wrote:It could well be that HBO are <I>well</I> aware of running the censored cut and that fan reaction will be to start discussing it online and ending up with having more copies of the uncut edition fly off DVD shelves!
Isn't the uncut version supposed to be exclusive to DVD? The only reason I never picked it up was the frame ratio issues I seem to remember. Wasn't it originally 1.33 and they cropped it to 1.78 to make it more like a "movie"...?
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Ahh, that sheds some light on the matter. But, yeah, to then just letterbox it as opposed to anamorphic doesn't make sense - just leave the matting open and allow us to blow it up at home.
Animating the entire negative area and matting for screening isn't anything new though - every Disney film post Sleeping Beauty in the 1960s went this way, from Dalmatians in '61 until Pete's Dragon in '77.
Animating the entire negative area and matting for screening isn't anything new though - every Disney film post Sleeping Beauty in the 1960s went this way, from Dalmatians in '61 until Pete's Dragon in '77.
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It really doesn't bother me as wellEricMontreal26 wrote:This is ALWAYS debated but Bruce Timms has said (and says it in his commentary which I think is only on the unedited version) that it was framed and directed to be viewed letterboxed and that's why he picked that aspect ratio for the DVD
And, nope, the commentary is on the edited version as well
Which brings up the question, is there an unedited version of commantary? Because, the version I heard, reflects the version I have.
Ugh, this is so confusing
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Hey Dan! I know you posted this quite a while ago but I guess I didn't notice, sorry.
My BB: ROTJ DVD has a commentary where they specifically talk about the disturbing scenes in ROTJ, particularly the Robin flashback.
So I think it has to be different than the original one.
Oh,and Dan, did you get to watch ROTJ (uncut)? What did you think?
It really doesn't bother me as well Smile
And, nope, the commentary is on the edited version as well Razz
Which brings up the question, is there an unedited version of commantary? Shocked Because, the version I heard, reflects the version I have.
Ugh, this is so confusing Confused
My BB: ROTJ DVD has a commentary where they specifically talk about the disturbing scenes in ROTJ, particularly the Robin flashback.
So I think it has to be different than the original one.
Oh,and Dan, did you get to watch ROTJ (uncut)? What did you think?
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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If there's a Barnes and Noble or Borders near you (DVD section) I'm pretty sure you can order it from them. They have almost any DVDs that are on the market.
I LOVE ROTJ. Just everything: the music, animation, art, story, themes--it's a bona fide classic in my eyes.
And in some ways, even though Batman Begins certainly had its moments, I think the understanding of Batman lore is seen much more so in the Timm/Dini/Markami films (ROTJ, MOTP, MOTB) than in BB, even though critics kept saying how "respectful" Nolan was the Batman mythos.
They said the same thing about Bryan Singer and Superman.....
I LOVE ROTJ. Just everything: the music, animation, art, story, themes--it's a bona fide classic in my eyes.
And in some ways, even though Batman Begins certainly had its moments, I think the understanding of Batman lore is seen much more so in the Timm/Dini/Markami films (ROTJ, MOTP, MOTB) than in BB, even though critics kept saying how "respectful" Nolan was the Batman mythos.
They said the same thing about Bryan Singer and Superman.....
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Speaking of Batman Begins, I've heard that the production team is looking at The Joker's first two appearences from 1940's Batman #1 (he was in two stories in that issue) as reference for how they want the character to be portrayed in The Dark Knight. This is interesting because, at first, Joker was a bit more sinister and not at all the goofy clown he became later (which, if you recall, was the dominant portrayal for decades until he went darker again starting in the late 70s). Heath Ledger has said he wants to make The Joker scary and not so much of a wisecracking funnyman (i.e. Jack Nicholson). Personally, all that info being out there, I can't wait til Dark Knight comes out and I can see if Ledger's take comes anywhere close to being as good as Mark Hammil's classic run.
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Heath Ledger has said he wants to make The Joker scary and not so much of a wisecracking funnyman (i.e. Jack Nicholson). Personally, all that info being out there, I can't wait til Dark Knight comes out and I can see if Ledger's take comes anywhere close to being as good as Mark Hammil's classic run.
I agree with this, but....I though Jack's Joker was pretty scary in some places too.
Of course he was all wacky and wisecracking, but there was a definite feeling of menace underneath it all. Just watch the part where he shocks Rotelli with a hand buzzer and laughs about it, then talks it over with his corpse.
Burton's film was actually seen as quite dark when it came out, (especially compared to the West TV series, which was pretty much the only live-action Batman most people were familiar with at the time) particularly Jack's psychotic portrayal of the Joker as mass murderer meets "homocidal artist."
And never mind Bruce Wayne's actually killing henchman, dropping Jack Napier into the acid (although some say he did by accident. ) and then using his batarang to tie a giant Gargoyle around the Joker's leg so he falls to his death. (yes, Batman had to have known that would kill him.)
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You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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I wrote this some time ago about ROTJ: it deals with the themes of the Joker/Tim Drake issue.
Read if you so wish to!
*Major spoilers if you haven't seen the film*
“Robin’s Makeover”—The Joker, Tim Drake and Childhood
It's a bit long, (surprise, surprise) but not too long.
Read if you so wish to!
*Major spoilers if you haven't seen the film*
“Robin’s Makeover”—The Joker, Tim Drake and Childhood
It's a bit long, (surprise, surprise) but not too long.
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Not too long? Ok.
I could even go so far, as to say its my favorite Batman film, EVER!
Yeah, there's one not to far from me. So I probably will do that, or buy it from Amazon. Depends.ShyViolet wrote:If there's a Barnes and Noble or Borders near you (DVD section) I'm pretty sure you can order it from them. They have almost any DVDs that are on the market.
Totally, Vi!ShyViolet wrote:I LOVE ROTJ. Just everything: the music, animation, art, story, themes--it's a bona fide classic in my eyes.
I could even go so far, as to say its my favorite Batman film, EVER!