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Post by ShyViolet » March 23rd, 2007, 6:12 am

I do feel sorry for Brandon Routh. I wonder if he'll face typecasting troubles like his predecessors?

And Kate Bosworth will have it even worse.

James Marsden--if they make another X-film, whoever directs, he should run, not walk, to get on board. (hopefully they will be smart enough to include him again.) And then he should demand some actual screen time. :roll:

Kevin Spacey.....will probably land on his feet. But it might not be for a while. :? Oh well, who am I kidding, he's Kevin Spacey, I'm sure he'll shake this off his career somehow. I mean the man won two Oscars!

Just my theories, anyway. :wink:
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Post by ShyViolet » March 23rd, 2007, 6:47 am

I guess we don't know anything for sure at this point...there's conflicting reports. Whatever happens though, my hope is that there IS a Superman-only sequel, and that Singer is NOT at the helm.

Here's some web musings:


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comm ... yid=408780


http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=20493


http://variety.com/article/VR1117961116 ... id=13&cs=1


OMG...in that photo....Tom looks....BAD. :shock:
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Post by Josh » March 23rd, 2007, 12:26 pm

It's rumored that the villains in Superman Returns Again/The Man of Steel/? will be Metallo and Brainiac.
Superman Homepage wrote:Apparently the 'Bank Gunner' from Superman Returns (the guy who shot Superman in the eye) will be the man who becomes/gets turned in to Metallo. It's unknown if he'll be referred to as John Corben or not.

The rumor goes on to state that Metallo does something pretty major in his huge battle with Superman which catches the attention of an alien orb in space (aka Brainiac), directing its attention towards Earth.
As disappointing as Returns was, I still wish its sequel would explore why exactly Superman left so suddenly and for such a long time. I keep thinking that for some reason, Superman had to leave for space immediately and wasn't able to return. In Returns, Superman didn't say much at all about his voyage. It's interesting to think that something epic and horrible happened to him, giving him memories far too painful to speak about.

What if Superman met some sort of insane, monstrous creature that he was never able to completely defeat? Perhaps the creature was determined to kill Superman... and has now come to earth to finish the job.

I don't know, I guess I just don't like thinking that Superman suddenly left everyone for a five-year trip that lead to nothing. :)

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Post by ShyViolet » March 23rd, 2007, 6:45 pm

Those are some very provokative thoughts there Josh! :)

They sound like a great way to redeem Supes Returns', "I had to see for myself" Clark, oh and I know I've been gone five years Lois, but how about leaving your fiencee for me, because I can actually fly and he's only a crummy pilot?

:roll:

Hollywoodland looks like it could be this year's decent mature flick. As a Superman and Reeves fan and someone who read about his story years ago, I am looking forward to this.
I'll probably be getting this on DVD soon....I love "biopic based on a true story" films that are well done. Every time I see an ad for this film, it captures my interest in a big way.

Too bad that this didn't get more attention...I wonder if it was Singer's film and its reaction that muted critical/Academy attention, and would things have been any different if Supes Returns had been a giant--or even moderate--blockbuster?
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Post by eddievalient » March 26th, 2007, 3:08 pm

Hey Josh, to answer you question about why Supes left Earth: I don't know if any of this was actually shot (director's cut?), but supposedly in the orginal conception of the film, Lex Luthor managed to somehow plant a story about Krypton's remains in the news so Superman would see it and go to investigate, hence the five year absence ('cause Krypton's not just across the street, ya know). I love the film and even I think that's reaching a bit, but it certainly would explain things. Oh, and the idea to put Metallo and Braniac in the sequel is a great one, so I hope that's what gets done.
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Post by ShyViolet » March 26th, 2007, 4:49 pm

Oh, and the idea to put Metallo and Braniac in the sequel is a great one, so I hope that's what gets done.
I love that idea too! :)
Lex Luthor managed to somehow plant a story about Krypton's remains in the news so Superman would see it and go to investigate, hence the five year absence ('cause Krypton's not just across the street, ya know).
I still think Superman would realize that Earth's scientists have limited capacitites and technology (especially compared to his people's technology) and not leave Earth even for five months for a "hunch" like that. (and believing it just because he reads it in the newspapers? Does anyone believe half of what they read in the newspapers? :P)

And even if it was proven 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that there were remains of Krypton scattered around somewhere out there, I still don't think he'd leave Earth--especially for five years--just to check it out. Earth is his home, and THAT'S where his loyalties lie. He knows how much Earth needs him, and that sometimes you have to sacrifice things for others even if it means losing out on something for yourself. (A lesson Spidey could teach him--remember: "With great power comes great responsibility" :wink:)

Peter wanted Mary Jane more than anything but he was willing to give her up, and face all the dangers and sacrifices of what it means to be Spiderman. Like Aunt May said: "That's what a hero is."

And remember that line in Bats Begins: "It's not what you think that counts--it's what you do that defines you."



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Post by ShyViolet » April 2nd, 2007, 12:16 am

Ditto with Bruce Tim over here as well.
The guy meant so much for my childhood looking back on it now
Batman tas was propably my favourite animated show growing up

You guys do know that he appeared as a villain/character in a B:TAS episode right? :D (the "toy" guy--sorry can't find a pic)
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Post by eddievalient » April 2nd, 2007, 1:54 pm

I remember that ! That was the "Grey Ghost" episode right (in which Adam West was the guest star)?
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Post by ShyViolet » April 2nd, 2007, 1:57 pm

Yes, I think you're right! That's the one, the one with Adam West. :wink:
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Post by ShyViolet » April 3rd, 2007, 2:56 am

Supes sequel "re-boot" rumors de-bunked??


http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=25704


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Post by ShyViolet » April 11th, 2007, 11:50 pm

I found this on YouTube by "jbsuperman"....I thought it was a cute video.....even though on the one hand I think it's ironic since the film's subtext contradicts a lot of what's in the song.....on the other hand you see what SR could have been as well. (Not to mention how absolutely great Lex/Spacey could have been if he'd been given a better script and direction....:()

Plus, it has clips of some scenes which were obviously deleted, and I hope make it to the eventual "re-cut." :)




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That flying is just sooooooooooooo bad.......:shock:

(with the CGI Supes saving the plane, and then that other time you can practically see the strings....:roll:)



(Maybe I should also say Copyright DreamWorks pictures, since the hero song was pretty blatantly ripped from Shrek 2! :P)


(Sorry, I realize it's copyrighted material, I just thought it was an interesting video, but I won't do it again. :oops:)
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Post by Ben » April 12th, 2007, 6:10 am

Why would Luthor plant a story to get Supes off the planet and then NOT DO ANYTHING IN ALL THE TIME SUPES WAS AWAY!!!?????

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Post by eddievalient » April 12th, 2007, 10:37 am

I didn't say it made any sense, but supposedly that's the explanation for the five year absence. Ya know, for anyone who might be curious.
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Post by Ben » April 13th, 2007, 7:48 am

But that doesn't make any sense! Like the rest of this gawdawful project.

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Post by ShyViolet » April 13th, 2007, 1:45 pm

Also, this one user on IMDB has been pointing out all the (many) plot holes in this film: (I thought the film had some minimally positive qualities, but plot wasn't one of them....:P)


PLOT-HOLE STUDY #6 - Why is Lex Luthor Not in Prison?
By Dr. Thomas Weintraub
Friday, January 5, 2007

If Superman Returns is indeed a loose sequel following the 1978 Superman film, then Lex Luthor should be in prison regardless if Superman is available to testify at Luthor’s trial or not. In the first Superman film, Superman traces the signal coming from the sonar signal by Luthor to a spot underground. When Superman arrives at this spot, he tells people to stand back and drills a hole, tunneling himself into the subway tunnel where Lex’s hideout is.

Superman also breaks down the door to Lex’s hideout, thus, exposing Lex’s once secret lair with no protective door. After Miss Tessmacher frees Superman from the Kryptonite necklace, Superman flies through the roof of Lex Luthor’s lair and into the streets of Metropolis, thus making another visible hole that cannot be filled.

Thus, Superman made three very obvious holes that can lead any person, police or otherwise, to Lex Luthor’s base of operations in the tunnels of Metropolis -- the biggest and most obvious tunnel and link to Lex’s lair being the tunnel that Superman made when drilling himself to Lex’s lair.

Now we are told in Superman Returns that Lex Luthor is out of prison because Superman did not testify at his trial nor did he make his court date. However, Superman is not needed to prove Lex Luthor’s guilt for the overwhelming evidence to lock him away for a long time on charges of terrorism are apparent all over the place. Again, citing the hole Superman made to Lex’s lair from the middle of Metropolis’s street, somebody had to go down there and see what Superman was after and what he did.

Not only that, but Luthor’s lair has sufficient evidence linking him to nuclear bombs, the plan to split California in half and several other acts of terrorism. The evidence is sitting right there! Thus, with the overwhelming evidence of terrorism in Luthor’s secret hideout and with Superman making an obvious hole in the middle of a Metropolis street that leads to that hide out, we are faced with a rather gaping plot-hole as to why Lex Luthor is not in jail for the evidence linking him to those acts of terrorism on California are obviously apparent.

So with the analysis presented, the plot-hole that needs to be answered is the following:

Why is Lex Luthor not in prison?

Thank You. -- Dr. T. Weintraub
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