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I like parts of them, and I loved Natalie Portman in (but only in The Phantom Menace.)
And of course the Duel of the Fates....
Jar-Jar's underwater kingdom was cool....looked awesome even though he was an exhasperating bore.
And Liam and Ewan actually managed to evoke some kind of kinship despite the script, MUCH more of a bond than Ewan and Hayden ever had....
Wish we saw more of their relationship and how they got to know each other in the first place....*sigh* 
And of course the Duel of the Fates....
Jar-Jar's underwater kingdom was cool....looked awesome even though he was an exhasperating bore.
And Liam and Ewan actually managed to evoke some kind of kinship despite the script, MUCH more of a bond than Ewan and Hayden ever had....
Wish we saw more of their relationship and how they got to know each other in the first place....*sigh* You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Also I love the way Ewan says "Your new Empire?" to Hayden in RotS. He does such a dead-on Alec Guiness!! Plus he gives him another dimension, doesn't just imiatate him.
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You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Clones is where it is at for me in the sequel prequels. You can't call them prequels as you can't actually watch the films in the "correct" way.
"I am your father"? Well, we knew that three movies ago!
With Clones, things got back on track, for a while. The whole set up was more intriguing, the unveiling of the Death Star (which doesn't actually make sense, but still a fun moment) and, frankly, the awesome start of the Clone Wars in the last half, is what put it up there tie-ing with Jedi or just above it in my book (below Empire and New Hope).
Simply put, Clones should have been Film 1. There's no need to know what "Annie" (haha) was like as a young kid (annoying) and create the bogus notion that he was an immaculate conception (something I was hoping would at least be explained by a Palpatine-interfering subplot). Start with Clones - make the audience happy they're actually watching a "Star Wars" film, and explain some Anakin background within this framework. Have him be an awesome young pilot with abilities that gets invited to join the Jedi at the half way mark of this Film 1.
Films 2 and 3 are essentially Sith, but spread out across the two movie lengths that film really needed. Start Film 2 at the same point Sith starts and let it run without the by-the-number pacing and having to pack everything in and have a longer than usual Star Wars film because he was running out of space.
Have Anakin start his real descent to the Dark Side at the end of Film 2. Create real tension!! Have Film 3 start with an "is he or isn't he?" vibe until he finally snaps and we get a shock to rival "I am your father" for the audience. Have the kids birth and the switch to Vader mode just after half way in the film (after the volcano planet fight with Ben Kenobi happens instead at the half way mark). Then let Vader turn real badass and mark his position and really set up the whole Rebels/Empire stance. End with a proper battle during which Luke and Leia are swooshed away safetly and Padme dies in a last ditch attempt to save Anakin Vader. Make it clear he doesn't know he has kids at this point!
Then close the film with much less of a rip off from the "following" film so that when Luke looks out on Tatooine's dual suns we then don't think it's a repeat shot and take it for the originally beautiful composition that it really is. Oh wait, I forgot, you can't watch them in that order anyway!!
Which all really proves that not only did GL NOT have the first three mapped out when he made the original trilogy, and that he didn't really even have Clones and Sith mapped out when he made Phantom Menace!
"I am your father"? Well, we knew that three movies ago!
With Clones, things got back on track, for a while. The whole set up was more intriguing, the unveiling of the Death Star (which doesn't actually make sense, but still a fun moment) and, frankly, the awesome start of the Clone Wars in the last half, is what put it up there tie-ing with Jedi or just above it in my book (below Empire and New Hope).
Simply put, Clones should have been Film 1. There's no need to know what "Annie" (haha) was like as a young kid (annoying) and create the bogus notion that he was an immaculate conception (something I was hoping would at least be explained by a Palpatine-interfering subplot). Start with Clones - make the audience happy they're actually watching a "Star Wars" film, and explain some Anakin background within this framework. Have him be an awesome young pilot with abilities that gets invited to join the Jedi at the half way mark of this Film 1.
Films 2 and 3 are essentially Sith, but spread out across the two movie lengths that film really needed. Start Film 2 at the same point Sith starts and let it run without the by-the-number pacing and having to pack everything in and have a longer than usual Star Wars film because he was running out of space.
Have Anakin start his real descent to the Dark Side at the end of Film 2. Create real tension!! Have Film 3 start with an "is he or isn't he?" vibe until he finally snaps and we get a shock to rival "I am your father" for the audience. Have the kids birth and the switch to Vader mode just after half way in the film (after the volcano planet fight with Ben Kenobi happens instead at the half way mark). Then let Vader turn real badass and mark his position and really set up the whole Rebels/Empire stance. End with a proper battle during which Luke and Leia are swooshed away safetly and Padme dies in a last ditch attempt to save Anakin Vader. Make it clear he doesn't know he has kids at this point!
Then close the film with much less of a rip off from the "following" film so that when Luke looks out on Tatooine's dual suns we then don't think it's a repeat shot and take it for the originally beautiful composition that it really is. Oh wait, I forgot, you can't watch them in that order anyway!!
Which all really proves that not only did GL NOT have the first three mapped out when he made the original trilogy, and that he didn't really even have Clones and Sith mapped out when he made Phantom Menace!
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I always had this weird idea for rewriting The Phantom Menace. Please don't laugh!Simply put, Clones should have been Film 1. There's no need to know what "Annie" (haha) was like as a young kid (annoying) and create the bogus notion that he was an immaculate conception (something I was hoping would at least be explained by a Palpatine-interfering subplot).
Anakin is a young boy but he's a lot more moody and unsure. He's just discovering his powers when Qui-Gon and Obi find him.
Most of the story would focus on Qui-Gon and Obi's relationship and how Obi-Wan, like Anakin in Clones, is struggling for his own independence in relation to Qui-Gon, to push his powers to the limit. Obi-Wan also has mixed feelings about Qui-Gon taking on Anakin as a Padawan when technically he still hasn't finished his training.
Qui-Gon's interactions with Anakin contrast with flashbacks of when Qui-Gon first met Obi Wan, etc...
That's as far as I had it thought out.
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Would love to.Mickey wrote:Hey, those are some good ideas! Wanna' direct Indy IV?
And what's the point of having a film where you have to read the tie-in novel to get the whole story?
And what's the point in having a film series where you have to have an entire TV show tie up the loose ends between prequel and original trilogies?
And what's the point... awwe shucks.
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I'd love for you to do it too.Ben wrote:Would love to.Mickey wrote:Hey, those are some good ideas! Wanna' direct Indy IV?
Unfortunately, it appears that Lucas is never going to let Indy IV happen. According to this IMDB article, he keeps turning down the ideas Spielberg and Darabont develop, considering none of them to be good enough.-
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Good. There's a part of me that doesn't want Indy IV to happen. The original trilogy was a product of its time: one at the front, one in the middle and one at the end of the 1980s.
Anything they make now will be tinged by technology and won't capture those glory days, however "fun" it is.
I think whatever Lucas touches is probably doomed. He should stick to telling new stories as he keeps saying he wants to do before sitting back and relying on more Star Wars and his other franchises.
He always said he should have done Howard The Duck with an animated duck. Now's your chance, George. I'd pay to see that.
Anything they make now will be tinged by technology and won't capture those glory days, however "fun" it is.
I think whatever Lucas touches is probably doomed. He should stick to telling new stories as he keeps saying he wants to do before sitting back and relying on more Star Wars and his other franchises.
He always said he should have done Howard The Duck with an animated duck. Now's your chance, George. I'd pay to see that.