Bee Movie

Post by **Once Upon A Dream** » November 6th, 2007, 5:17 am

Yeah,you're rigth,i just was wanted and we got off topic,sorry

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And yeah,it's not responsible at all,there's alot of prarents that don't know what movies they take their children to watch.
Small children shouldn't watch these movies (teen yes but no small kids) and parents who take them to such movies is not responsible.

Post by **Ben** » November 6th, 2007, 9:36 am

I saw Constantine when I was in NYC and there was a three year old kid next to us who was just scared the whole way through.

At least over here, a 12 means a 12, and the same for 15 and 18. I mean, besides giving the kids nightmares, who wants a wailing kid sitting next to you through a two-hour "adult" movie?

And considering I haven't even heard of The Mist or Hitman, I don't think either will take anything away from Enchanted's box office, plus Enchanted is opening in the good old Disney November slot...it's success is guaranteed if it gets good word of mouth.

Code Horror...we get that you like those kinds of films. I don't mind them myself, but this is an ANIMATION FORUM where we're for, supportive of, and generally in favor of ANIMATED FILMS over anything else. So can I ask you (again) to stop pushing the same old angle. We used to criticize ShyVi for going on and on about DreamWorks so it wouldn't be fair to her if I didn't call you in for going on and on about the same old thing also.

Knock the horror talk on the head or skedaddle...it's gotten really boring fast.

Thanks.

Post by **Once Upon A Dream** » November 6th, 2007, 11:24 am

Well,i"m glad that Enchanted will make it big (i wonder if after the film's they'll make her an official Disney Princess).
Does in UK kids under the age,let's say,12 can see movie who are 15 rated?.
About Bee Movie-does Vennesa help Barry sue the humans? becouse if she does,it whouldn't make sense.

Post by **Ben** » November 6th, 2007, 12:21 pm

No, you need to be 12 to see a 12 film, 15 to see a 15 and 18 to see an 18.

Of course, things are not checked, and I was going to 15 films when I was 13, but you couldn't get a child of, say, 8 into a 12 or 15.

12 came along later, while now we also have a 12A which means a child under 12 can get in with an adult. Of course, this means that I had to sit and watch Casino Royale - a film which features people being shot in the head, stabbed and tortured - in a theater with three young children who got easily bored and just ran around the auditorium. At the 8pm showing!

We complained and got tickets for another screening, but we used 'em for another movie (the much better and vastly entertaining Night At The Museum).

Code Horror · Post by **Code Horror** » November 6th, 2007, 12:52 pm

It's not because I like them, the point is that The Mist is getting alot of hype and Hitman has a decent amount besides, the trailer to The Mist is being watched alot more than Enchanted, heck the trailer is number 5 on the most watched on IMDB, Enchanted's not on the Top 5. And besides, alot people The Green Mile and since Frank Darabount is writing and directing, who wouldn't want to see it?

And that's all, end of discussion.

Post by **Once Upon A Dream** » November 6th, 2007, 5:04 pm

Who cares about trailers anyway?

(not to mention that Enchanted has only one trailer since May and The Mist and Hitman have more).
You know,just becouse you like these movies dosn't mean that they will make more money (i don't believe that R-rated will beat Enchanted,Enchanted is a movie that everyone can see and The Mist and Hitman are for R-rated movies fans).
And Ben-nice to hear that

(here a 6 years old child can see a 18 rated movie).

Code Horror · Post by **Code Horror** » November 6th, 2007, 5:28 pm

Once Upon A Dream wrote:Who cares about trailers anyway? (not to mention that Enchanted has only one trailer since May and The Mist and Hitman have more).
You know,just becouse you like these movies dosn't mean that they will make more money (i don't believe that R-rated will beat Enchanted,Enchanted is a movie that everyone can see and The Mist and Hitman are for R-rated movies fans).

You're missing the point. It's not because I like them, the thing is those movies are being hyped more than Enchanted but besides even if Enchanted does make money, The Mist or Hitman would still have the last laugh, kids would possibly ask for tickets for Enchanted only just to sneak in either of the two films.

Post by **Dacey** » November 6th, 2007, 6:58 pm

Uh-huh. Yup. That's all very interesting.

Can we talk about "Bee Movie" now?

Post by **Daniel** » November 6th, 2007, 7:23 pm

I'm hoping to see it soon!

Post by **James** » November 6th, 2007, 9:18 pm

Belated review is up!

http://animated-views.com/2007/bee-movie-film/

Post by **eddievalient** » November 7th, 2007, 1:36 am

Here's what I thought: I tend to be pretty forgiving with lapses of logic in animation, so as far as that goes I didn't have a problem with it. I agree with James that it is pretty noticibly episodic and the last "episode" is a bit silly. Overall, though, I really enjoyed it. The cast does a great job and the story is engaging enough that I would recommend it to people. It's not the best thing Dreamworks has done (that goes to Shrek 2) but it's far from the worst (tie between Shrek the Third and Madagascar). I'd give it a solid 3 1/2 out of 5. I wouldn't mind a sequel, but I can't imagine another story that would justify an entire movie as opposed to a primetime special or something similar.

Post by **Dacey** » November 7th, 2007, 9:47 am

I think one reason that some people are having a problem with this movie is the overly self-conscious humor. I'm not really talking about the usual pop culture references found in DreamWorks films so much as I'm talking about things like the Larry King interview ("You know, there's a Larry King in the human world who looks just like you"). They probably should've cut that scene completely. And the Ray Liotta was almost embarassing.

There were also a few plot holes that I have trouble getting over (If "Bee Rule #1" is never talk to a human, how come Barry doesn't get into more trouble than he does?), but I enjoyed the film overall, largely thanks to the relationship between Barry and Vanessa.

Post by **CGIFanatic** » November 8th, 2007, 9:32 am

Plot hole?

First it’s an animation where we have speaking animals, cars, toys, etc. so let’s not be looking for reality in these kinds of movies but let me play out a scenario for you.

You are a school kid who decides to play hookey one day to go to big city and hang out, while in the city you witness a crime so you call the cops and they come and catch the bad guys. How likely is it that you’ll be raked over the coals for playing hookey or do you think that maybe you’d be congratulated for helping to get the bad guy?

Post by **James** » November 8th, 2007, 12:01 pm

Plot holes shouldn't be forgiven just because a film is animated. And the example you give doesn't apply as the the first time Barry admitted talking to humans he hadn't learned about the honey yet.

Post by **CGIFanatic** » November 8th, 2007, 2:14 pm

I know what you’re saying James but telling your best friend a secret isn’t like telling the law and another thing since the times of Moses we’ve had the ten commandments but every day one of those commandments/laws is broken a thousand times over and sometimes nothing happens to law breaker...

I still say it’s an animated movies where things happen in them that requires us to use imagination and sometimes suspension of real world logic. For example in Toy Story the toys could talk to themselves but they couldn’t talk to humans but in the early comic days we’ve had characters like “Elmur Fudd” talking with “Bug’s Bunny” so there isn’t some hard and set rule there, I guess what I'm saying is that we're talking about animated movies where things happen in them that shouldn't be put under the microscope to much...

I haven’t seen Wall-E but from the little snippet that we’ve seen we saw the little robot (inanimate object) somehow have an emotional connection with the little cockroach (living creature) which if you think about it, it certainly doesn’t scream logic.