Chronicles of Narnia
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I agree that Caspian is the weakest of the books - practically nothing happens - and though I wasn't the biggest fan of the first film, which I felt was over directed, the good things I'm hearing about this new film sounds like they've done the best than can be done with the material and have fashioned a decent screen adventure.
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OUCH!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... 7574dd5366
And this was supposed to be Narnia's weekend, without any family fare doing well before it that would detract...looks like everyone's saving up for Indy next weekend.
Anyone now doubt that the Narnia films won't make it so seven?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... 7574dd5366
And this was supposed to be Narnia's weekend, without any family fare doing well before it that would detract...looks like everyone's saving up for Indy next weekend.
Anyone now doubt that the Narnia films won't make it so seven?
Yeah,
A seven-film series is a pretty tall order if it isn't James Bond, Star Trek, or Star Wars.
I've gotta admit it --- I'm NOT a fan of the Narnia books. I had a hard time gettting through the entire series and honestly never gave it much of a thought for over 20 years until the first Disney Narnia feature was released.
Yes, the first Disney Narnia feature was a good film. Do I particularly want to watch more of these? Well, not really.
I don't know that there's as much of a fanbase for these films as some people might think. There definitely was for LOTR, and many, many people want to see the The Hobbit made so that the LOTR quadrilogy is finished.
Caspian really sounds more like a victim of bad-timing, though, than audience apathy. With the general economy still in recession and people being picky about entertainment -- especially if they're a family with kids! --, it probably would have been better to have released this film later in the summer or during the November/December window where it would have had less competition.
A seven-film series is a pretty tall order if it isn't James Bond, Star Trek, or Star Wars.
I've gotta admit it --- I'm NOT a fan of the Narnia books. I had a hard time gettting through the entire series and honestly never gave it much of a thought for over 20 years until the first Disney Narnia feature was released.
Yes, the first Disney Narnia feature was a good film. Do I particularly want to watch more of these? Well, not really.
I don't know that there's as much of a fanbase for these films as some people might think. There definitely was for LOTR, and many, many people want to see the The Hobbit made so that the LOTR quadrilogy is finished.
Caspian really sounds more like a victim of bad-timing, though, than audience apathy. With the general economy still in recession and people being picky about entertainment -- especially if they're a family with kids! --, it probably would have been better to have released this film later in the summer or during the November/December window where it would have had less competition.
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Or Harry Potter.GeorgeC wrote:A seven-film series is a pretty tall order if it isn't James Bond, Star Trek, or Star Wars.
Even though that'll end up being a quintet, at five films.GeorgeC wrote:Many people want to see the The Hobbit made so that the LOTR quadrilogy is finished.
I agree that Caspian should have been held until Christmas. Films of the Narnia books seem to feel like Christmas events anyway, like the Potters were. WB took a chance going with the summer Potters but they had a solid franchise there and a CURRENT rabid fan base.
Whatever else, the Narnia books were written in answer to the LOTR books and these new films are being made in reply to the LOTR films. But they just don't have that depth. I must agree that the books can get quite bogged down, primarily because there just isn't a lot to them. Dawn Treader seems to be a popular one and I think it's because there's more than just a hard slog of a story in it.
But I don't just think it's a timing thing. Last weekend the pundits were cheering Disney's choice of slot. Speed Racer had tanked, Iron Man was (slowly) flying off, and they had a full week to make a big haul before Indy's return. However, Caspian, as has been said, really doesn't have anything going on in it. The kids come back. They have a bit of trouble finding Aslan again. There's another battle. Done.
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The producers were reportedly considering to skip/rearrange Horse and His Boy, and do Magicians Nephew after Silver Chair, just so that they reportedly wouldn't have to cast different actors as the Adult Susan and Lucy by the time they got to "Horse"...YCougar wrote:Prince Caspian in 2008??! *wince* Man, those kids are gonna grow fast. They're gonna need a non-canon excuse for the aging for any movies after this... maybe add a few years in English-time between stories. That wouldn't be too bad.
How they plan to handle "Last Battle", I'm guessing they're not.
(You're asking "Why don't they just use different actors, since these're just book characters"?--
They don't. They're studios. It's bad luck. The Volcano God would be angry.)
Caspian had been aimed for Christmas '07--Ben wrote:I agree that Caspian should have been held until Christmas.
Films of the Narnia books seem to feel like Christmas events anyway, like the Potters were. WB took a chance going with the summer Potters but they had a solid franchise there and a CURRENT rabid fan base.
Problem is, Walden Media had started seeing other studios, and they didn't want their first Sony fling, "The Water Horse", to be undercut by their own more-recognized competition from a bigger studio that December.
Also, it takes forever to find out What We Already Know, even just from one reading of the first book--But I don't just think it's a timing thing. Last weekend the pundits were cheering Disney's choice of slot. Speed Racer had tanked, Iron Man was (slowly) flying off, and they had a full week to make a big haul before Indy's return. However, Caspian, as has been said, really doesn't have anything going on in it. The kids come back. They have a bit of trouble finding Aslan again. There's another battle. Done.
We know it's later...We know Lucy's Always Right, even if nobody believes her...And the movie even comes up with the brainstorm of intercutting the Caspian and Kids plots, so we at least don't feel bogged down between one set of people getting to the cave and the other.
Like Kenneth Brannagh overdoing his Hamlet, Andrew Adamson always feels like he's defensively "overcompensating" the fact that Lewis isn't Tolkien, by turning any sentence that can be an Epic into one, whether it likes it or not.
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(Reviews with spoilers,I guess).
I have seen Prince Caspian and I think that the story was presented badly and someone who haven't read the book probably won't understand the story,the story was just messed up but everything in the book is very clear.
Since when Telmarines are Spanish? Spanish people took over Narnia? and I"m pretty sure that they didn't came from our world in the book.
Why everyone (Even Edmund) stopped believe in Aslan exept Lucy? since when Lucy and Caspian are in love? (Oh,she heard that he's a prince and she already has wedding in her mind?).
And why Miraze got so much screentime? I also didn't liked Miraze much,the White Witch is better then him (She really reminds me of Maleficent and the Evil Queen).
I have seen Prince Caspian and I think that the story was presented badly and someone who haven't read the book probably won't understand the story,the story was just messed up but everything in the book is very clear.
Since when Telmarines are Spanish? Spanish people took over Narnia? and I"m pretty sure that they didn't came from our world in the book.
Why everyone (Even Edmund) stopped believe in Aslan exept Lucy? since when Lucy and Caspian are in love? (Oh,she heard that he's a prince and she already has wedding in her mind?).
And why Miraze got so much screentime? I also didn't liked Miraze much,the White Witch is better then him (She really reminds me of Maleficent and the Evil Queen).
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Actually, the book didn't specifically give them a nationality, but I remember them being described in the book as dark and swarthy. When I was younger, I always pictured them as looking more Arabic. But even in the book, they did come from our world and any who wanted were sent back there at the end.Once Upon A Dream wrote:Since when Telmarines are Spanish? Spanish people took over Narnia? and I"m pretty sure that they didn't came from our world in the book. (sic)
They didn't necessarily stop believing, but they got caught up in their own plans and stopped looking to Aslan for guidance. (Another example of the Christian allegory that's less prevalent than in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe but still very much there.)Once Upon A Dream wrote:Why everyone (Even Edmund) stopped believe in Aslan exept Lucy? (sic)