Captain America

Post by **EricJ** » February 2nd, 2011, 3:42 pm

For those who haven't followed, it's "Captain America: the First Avenger" (hinting that the rest are coming soon enough, after Thor's movie and a third Iron Man without Favreau), and concentrates on his WWII days--But it's got a good "What Inglorious Basterds SHOULD have been" look, from the set/costume shots.

Unlike DC, Marvel still wants to do their group movie, although it's just a matter of fighting down Marvel's urges to do introductory solo movies for all the B-team members...Although we'll let Edgar Wright finish his Ant-Man movie.

GeorgeC · Post by **GeorgeC** » February 7th, 2011, 11:52 am

The movie has 50//50 chances of being any good.

I'm still concerned at comments made by the director last year. My concerns about Evans' physicality were pretty much laid to rest by the Super Bowl spot. Physically, he LOOKS like Steve Rogers... whether that translates into a good performance I don't know.

They showed reveals of the shield in unpainted alloy form (not convincing to me, honestly) as well as the Red Skull. Out of everything I saw in the brief trailer, the Skull was by far the most convincing. Whether it's his true face or a mask, it sure looks lifelike and just menacing.... the way it's always been in the best Captain America comics. Very good prosthesis and make-up job there. It doesn't look like cheap made-for-TV.

Post by **Randall** » February 7th, 2011, 12:12 pm

Of course, this has a 99.9% chance of being better than the Matt Salinger film!

Gotta love those rubber ears that melted during filming.

Actually, I'm a bit pumped about this new film. I'm expecting it to be at least pretty good.

Thor on the other hand... we'll have to wait and see on that one. It could be awesome, or terribly hokey. It'll be hard to pull that one off, though what I've seen so far gives me some hope.

Post by **EricJ** » February 7th, 2011, 6:13 pm

Here's the Super Bowl spots that were aired (and not YouTubed off of somebody's TV), for those who don't live in Wisconsin and missed them:
http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/565-f ... super-bowl

Cap looks pretty good, and a much more comic-canon Red Skull. (Yes, I've seen the Salinger version too...The Skull was Italian??)
It's nice to have Marvel back making their own movies again, and this one advertises its Avenger-movie intentions right in the title. Looks like they also plan to clean up a few other spare "solo movie" ideas by having WWII Cap aided by Sgt. Fury & His Howling Commandos (thus leading into Col. Fury forming the Avengers).

I've seen the Thor trailer on the bigscreen, but I'll have see more before judging, as they keep retconning the character's origin in the comics.

Post by **estefan** » February 7th, 2011, 7:13 pm

I'm confident this will be good. Joe Johnston may be a so-so director, but his one great film is The Rocketeer, which just happens to be a World War II superhero flick, based on a classic comic book.

Also, it was recently announced that Alan Menken would be writing some original songs for the film: http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/compos ... n-america/

I guess this is a new Marvel Studios tradition, hiring Disney song-writers to pen new songs for their productions. Richard M Sherman's "Carousel of Progress" tune in Iron Man 2 was wonderful.

I look forward to what Randy Newman writes for the new Spider-Man.

Post by **Ben** » February 9th, 2011, 3:53 pm

Okay...can't say how this came about, but *apparently* the costume we have all been seeing is not the final CapAm costume. The one in the spots so far is the initial "home-made" (not actually home-made, but you get the gist) version. From what I hear, there's another costume he dons in the movie. That could all be wrong and I may have misunderstood, but that's the word going around...

Post by **EricJ** » February 9th, 2011, 3:56 pm

IOW, the costume he wore as a 40's soldier was distinctly more GI and low-tech than the one he wore twenty years later as an Avenger, and we're looking at his WWII years. (At least, as current Marvel canon retro-imagined them.)
If you want The Icon, hold yer horses, that's coming in the next movie--He hasn't even been to the Arctic yet.

Post by **lilithkrista** » February 10th, 2011, 11:58 pm

I think the costume that Capt.A is using in the movie was the first costume he used when he started the Avengers. But the iconic Capt.A costume was the latest when they've all got together.

In my opinion, Capt.A is so hot

GeorgeC · Post by **GeorgeC** » February 11th, 2011, 2:03 am

No,

The film costume is definitely NOT the costume the mainline Marvel Universe Captain has worn since Captain America Comics #2 (late 1940/early 1941).

The film outfit resembles the Ultimate Universe (alternate Marvel reality) Cap outfit which incorporates World War II GI gear.

Here's the first published Captain America Comics' cover...

Note the differences in the initial costume design. The mask is not attached to the main suit and Cap carries a triangular shield. The cover of this issue is considered one of the most iconic published in American comics history.

Here's the reason why Captain America's uniform was altered in issue #2 of Captain America Comics.

Archie Comics (yes, "Betty and Veronica" Archie) claimed that Captain America's triangular shield infringed on the design of their Shield character which was published a few months before Captain America Comics #1. Despite being the second-published patriotic flag-wearing hero, Cap far surpassed The Shield's popularity and has remained in print since his revival in the early 1960s. None of The Shield's revivals and retcons ever gelled; the character's origin, backstory, and design never matched Cap's which have iconic pop culture status.

Captain America Comics #2 cover. This is pretty much the costume Cap (Steve Rogers) wears to this day. The only major differences are the four painted concentric bands on the discus-shaped shield. It has an outer blue band which the modern version lacks. After Cap was revived in The Avengers #4 (1964), his shield continued to be drawn with 4 concentric bands for a while. The outer band was colored red in these early issues of his revival. The modern Cap's shield (the same one carried since Captain America Comics #2) has red-white-red bands.

Captain American as he's drawn today. This is pretty much the established design since the mid-1960s.

Post by **Dacey** » March 23rd, 2011, 10:44 pm

The trailer's FINALLY online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerVrbLldXw

GeorgeC · Post by **GeorgeC** » March 24th, 2011, 4:03 pm

I'm still cautious about the trailer.

The 1989 Batman trailer was very good, too... and 20+ years later the film's acknowledged by many people as having really stunk. Now that film IS overrated!

Now, here's an ad from Jedi Father & Son Baking!

Post by **Randall** » March 24th, 2011, 8:24 pm

OK, George, let's knock off the off-topic posts, pics, and smurfs please.

Seriously.

(It's hard to sound serious with "smurf" in your post.)

Post by **EricJ** » March 24th, 2011, 9:16 pm

Randall wrote:OK, George, let's knock off the off-topic posts, pics, and smurfs please.

Seriously.

(It's hard to sound serious with "smurf" in your post.)

And while we're on the self-indulgence cautions, PLEASE:
The cute-Star-Wars-photo gag was supposed to start and end with that Super Bowl commercial, because it happened to show up that day on YouTube...That was it.
If we knew you were going to take it this far every time you had nothing else to post, we wouldn't have bothered in the first place.

This is the second thread in one day some of us on the board have had to caution you about not posting Anything You Darn Well Feel Like, and it's getting to be a genuine problem. We're talking a psychological problem, and we ain't kidding.
I've mentioned the science of Net Kook-dom before, and made it sound humorous, but it's REAL: We are not your friends. We don't know you and we don't even know your name. When we pull up the forum and see that GeorgeC has left a post on every single topic and board in ten minutes, that's not a "net-buddy", that's a stalker....Who shows every indication that he's using the board to make up for his own lack of a social life. Only one other poster tries to canvas every single board category, and he's the one who tries to spam bootleg links.
On Usenet, we used to joke, "Play with trolls and you get to keep them; play with Kooks and you get to keep them forever."

If you've got something to say about animation (as opposed to DC comics or obituaries), by all means, please do. But we're not the Cheers bar, and we don't shout "Norm!" every night you walk in and take your regular seat.

GeorgeC · Post by **GeorgeC** » March 25th, 2011, 5:01 pm

From www.dictionary.com:

stalk
–verb (used without object)
1.to pursue or approach prey, quarry, etc., stealthily.
2.to walk with measured, stiff, or haughty strides: He was so angry he stalked away without saying goodbye.
3.to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: Famine stalked through the nation.
4.Obsolete . to walk or go stealthily along.

–verb (used with object)
5.to pursue (game, a person, etc.) stealthily.
6.to proceed through (an area) in search of prey or quarry: to stalk the woods for game.
7.to proceed or spread through in a steady or sinister manner: Disease stalked the land.

Nope, pretty sure I don't meet the qualification of a stalker!

Post by **Ben** » March 26th, 2011, 10:09 am

Okay...Randall had a point. But he's a member of staff around here and appropriately able to make such comments.

Eric, on the other hand...there was no reason, other than I can see than to use the opportunity to stage another dig at George, to intervene or make any comments whatsoever, especially while still being on very shaky ground. I commend George on coming back with the Dictionary descriptions and not using his reply to begin or prolong a new argument.

In anticipation of Eric's next come-back, all I can say is know your place, man, or find another one.

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