Winnie the Pooh (2011)
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I hate to say it, but having seen the trailer for this before "Gnomeo" recently, the animation doesn't look very good on a big screen.
The characters don't even blend into all of the backgrounds very well, looking "added" instead of actually there. And the shot of Pooh and Christopher Robin running into the sunset is just sloppy, with the duo looking like they're "shrinking" rather than moving.
And this comes from someone who showed up for the silly old bear's last three trips to the big screen (even though Disney is trying to delude themselves into thinking we forgot about them, which in the case of especially "The Tigger Movie" isn't even fair). But there is nothing here to get people excited. Instead of being the "New Pooh" we thought we might be getting, this looks like same old, same old.
The characters don't even blend into all of the backgrounds very well, looking "added" instead of actually there. And the shot of Pooh and Christopher Robin running into the sunset is just sloppy, with the duo looking like they're "shrinking" rather than moving.
And this comes from someone who showed up for the silly old bear's last three trips to the big screen (even though Disney is trying to delude themselves into thinking we forgot about them, which in the case of especially "The Tigger Movie" isn't even fair). But there is nothing here to get people excited. Instead of being the "New Pooh" we thought we might be getting, this looks like same old, same old.
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Dude, it was like 10 years ago I saw a traditionally animated movie with cute talking animals! I guess Princess and the Frog could fall under that category, but then we still wouldn't get away from it's conspicuous lack of cute talking animals.Macaluso wrote:Do you just... not WATCH movies?carlminez wrote: Finally, a traditionally animated film with cute, talking animals!
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Cartoonbrew posted a clip of the movie.
Rabbit seems a bit off.
Rabbit seems a bit off.
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Yeah...to me he seems a little "over"-animated?
It is odd to see the characters back with all the Xerox-style drawing lines around them again - even if they're not as "sketchy" as back in the original days - after the years of black marker-outlined TV adaptations.
Pooh and Piglet were pretty true to themselves, though, but I'm just still not impressed enough to rush and go see this. It's a Winnie The Pooh movie for goodness' sake! This is supposed to keep us all coming back for more hand-drawn animation? It's something we've seen before, not something that's going to build on the right steps of Princess And The Frog and the more assured storytelling of Tangled.
I do love Pooh, and I like that they've made a new movie with the characters with the crop of current Disney animators that isn't a DTV, but it's also just more of the same, just more nicely rendered. That the title is so boring and bland and doesn't place it in the Pooh canon anywhere just adds to the laziness of the release, to me. And since the movie's probably not going to run more than 80 minutes tops, and probably won't have an added-value short film in front of it (even though Disney have a couple up their sleeve) like back in the original Pooh days, I'm probably going to wait for this one on disc.
I was good to The Tigger Movie and Piglet's Big Movie and, while I realize those weren't exactly theatrical Pooh canon, I did splash the cash to see them in a theater. Tigger was fine, but they owe me for Piglet!
It is odd to see the characters back with all the Xerox-style drawing lines around them again - even if they're not as "sketchy" as back in the original days - after the years of black marker-outlined TV adaptations.
Pooh and Piglet were pretty true to themselves, though, but I'm just still not impressed enough to rush and go see this. It's a Winnie The Pooh movie for goodness' sake! This is supposed to keep us all coming back for more hand-drawn animation? It's something we've seen before, not something that's going to build on the right steps of Princess And The Frog and the more assured storytelling of Tangled.
I do love Pooh, and I like that they've made a new movie with the characters with the crop of current Disney animators that isn't a DTV, but it's also just more of the same, just more nicely rendered. That the title is so boring and bland and doesn't place it in the Pooh canon anywhere just adds to the laziness of the release, to me. And since the movie's probably not going to run more than 80 minutes tops, and probably won't have an added-value short film in front of it (even though Disney have a couple up their sleeve) like back in the original Pooh days, I'm probably going to wait for this one on disc.
I was good to The Tigger Movie and Piglet's Big Movie and, while I realize those weren't exactly theatrical Pooh canon, I did splash the cash to see them in a theater. Tigger was fine, but they owe me for Piglet!
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Actually, Pooh will have a short with it...although maybe not in UK theaters:
http://animatedviews.com/2011/first-ima ... of-nessie/
http://animatedviews.com/2011/first-ima ... of-nessie/
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I hope Nessie talks abd has a beautiful voice!
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62 minutes for the film itself, supposedly. Not including the credits or the Nessie short. Eh.Ben wrote:And since the movie's probably not going to run more than 80 minutes tops
Rabbit sounds alright in the clip. Sounds like a mixture of the previous actor (0:8 to 0:12 sounded really close!) with a hint of Spongebob. It's okay, but would've preferred if Ken had continued providing the voice. Just seems like another unnecessary change.
Finally, we hear Piglet speak some lines. Can't say I'm as impressed as I was with the first trailer, but it's a HUGE improvement! Piglet sounded too old/"off" and like he had a cold in My Friends, but here he sounds closer to John while sounding a little younger. Piglet sounds so cute now and I love that his squeak and little noises are back.
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I'm wondering if I should even say this, given that the joke got kinda old around here recently, but...SMURF THAT!!62 minutes for the film itself, supposedly. Not including the credits or the Nessie short. Eh.
Seriously, this is the running time for a FEATURE ANIMATION PRODUCTION?!?! That's shorter than "Never Land"!
And, unfortunately, Dan's right. The Hollywood Reporter confirms it with an early review:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review ... iew-173002
If the credits take a full ten minutes, it sounds as though the actual film might not even clock it at an hour.
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Did any of you forget the running time for Dumbo? It was about an hour long too, and look how much it told in that amount of time.
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I knew that someone would bring up "Dumbo" when I said that.
Chances are that "Dumbo" would've actually been longer if Disney had more money at the time, but the studio had just suffered from two bombs in the form of "Pinochio" and "Fantasia." But I could be wrong when I say that. After all, without the Pink Elephants sequence, "Dumbo" doesn't even run close to an hour--more like 55 minutes--, and however entertaining that part of the movie may be, it can easily be seen as "filler." Whatever the reason for the length may be, it's fairly easy to tell an effective story in a short ammount of time when your main character doesn't ever talk.
In the case of "Pooh," though, we know that that this isn't about story, nor is it about the studio not having enough money. As has been said here before, it's becoming more and more obvious that Disney has very little if any faith in this project doing well. And it's starting to become depressing.
Chances are that "Dumbo" would've actually been longer if Disney had more money at the time, but the studio had just suffered from two bombs in the form of "Pinochio" and "Fantasia." But I could be wrong when I say that. After all, without the Pink Elephants sequence, "Dumbo" doesn't even run close to an hour--more like 55 minutes--, and however entertaining that part of the movie may be, it can easily be seen as "filler." Whatever the reason for the length may be, it's fairly easy to tell an effective story in a short ammount of time when your main character doesn't ever talk.
In the case of "Pooh," though, we know that that this isn't about story, nor is it about the studio not having enough money. As has been said here before, it's becoming more and more obvious that Disney has very little if any faith in this project doing well. And it's starting to become depressing.
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Oh come on, buck up!!
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Why is Owl in the hole? Couldn't he just fly out?
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Consider that the 1977 movie was mostly just two previously-released WtP 'featurettes' which were stuck together. And also that the A.A. Milne books themselves make for short, brisk reading.
The Tigger Movie -- as much as I enjoyed it -- is very 'plotty,' by comparison with the original films and the books.
Every dialogue-based scene I've seen in the trailers & peeks at this 'new' Winnie the Pooh movie seems to have its origins in passages from the books. I'm looking forward to it, whether or not it becomes a 'box-office smash'.
.. oh, and: woooo!
The Tigger Movie -- as much as I enjoyed it -- is very 'plotty,' by comparison with the original films and the books.
Every dialogue-based scene I've seen in the trailers & peeks at this 'new' Winnie the Pooh movie seems to have its origins in passages from the books. I'm looking forward to it, whether or not it becomes a 'box-office smash'.
.. oh, and: woooo!