Disney's Frozen

Post by **ShyViolet** » February 2nd, 2006, 4:18 pm

I agree, even though I liked Shrek and Shrek II....I'm sick of this. Especially how they did it in Chicken Little. (even though I liked that too, but enough is enough.)

Isn't it sad that the only really great animated musical made in the last seven years or so was South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut?

Post by **Meg** » February 2nd, 2006, 4:37 pm

Never seen it...I don't like South Park too much.

Post by **Dacey** » February 2nd, 2006, 5:14 pm

"Teacher's Pet" was a musical, and the recent "Hoodwinked" had a few traditional songs. All the songs in the "South Park" movie were profane, profane, profane if I'm not mistaken.

Post by **Meg** » February 2nd, 2006, 5:27 pm

Eugh, even the little kids I was babysitting didn't like Teacher's Pet.

Post by **Ben** » February 3rd, 2006, 9:58 am

Wendy's Jane wrote:"Teacher's Pet" was a musical, and the recent "Hoodwinked" had a few traditional songs. All the songs in the "South Park" movie were profane, profane, profane if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah.

Post by **PatrickvD** » February 3rd, 2006, 2:46 pm

South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut is a masterpiece.... it reminds me of what awesome year 1999 was for animation:

Tarzan, Toy Story 2, The Iron Giant and South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut are all awesome. Nowadays we have twice the amount of animated films in a year but the quality....

Post by **Josh** » February 3rd, 2006, 2:53 pm

PatrickvD wrote:Tarzan, Toy Story 2, The Iron Giant and South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut are all awesome. Nowadays we have twice the amount of animated films in a year but the quality....

For some reason, I've been thinking about that lately also. The year 1999 was great for animation. (By the way, don't forget Fantasia 2000, which opened in December.)

Post by **PatrickvD** » February 3rd, 2006, 3:05 pm

Mickey wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Tarzan, Toy Story 2, The Iron Giant and South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut are all awesome. Nowadays we have twice the amount of animated films in a year but the quality....
For some reason, I've been thinking about that lately also. The year 1999 was great for animation. (By the way, don't forget Fantasia 2000, which opened in December.)

You're right. So that's 5 of the best animated films ever made all in one year. I don't think there's another year out there that can top 1999 in terms of animation.

Post by **robster** » December 8th, 2009, 4:36 am

Ladies and Gents, we have confirmation from the horses mouth himself, Peter Del Vecho (Producer of The Princess and the Frog), the next handdrawn animated feature film in production at Disney now is "Snow Queen" and Ron and John are starting production on another 2D project in the spring of 2010. Don't believe me, read on and watch the video with Peter Del Vecho. This info comes from Brendon Connelly, who wrote a piece for movie website /Film:

On Friday December 4th, I was lucky enough to spend the whole day at Walt Disney Animation Studios in Burbank. My mission was to film footage for a /Film Exclusive documentary about the return of hand-drawn animation, focusing on Disney’s superlative new picture, The Princess and the Frog.

During the day I carried out filmed interviews with the film’s directors John Musker and Ron Clements, leading lady Anika Noni Rose, producer Peter del Vecho and a whole host of animation, storyboarding and design talent. I think I pushed deeper than you’d typically see on a behind-the-scenes piece for DVD, for example, and I’m sure I managed to get an awful lot of good footage and interesting discussion, as well as some genuine revelations about the current state of hand-drawn animation and the creative qualities of The Princess and the Frog.

That documentary will be some time coming, however - I’ve got hours and hours of footage to sculpt - but, in the meantime, I’ll be able to show you a few little glimpses of what went down on the day. To start off with, there’s a very brief and essentially unedited clip after the break, one in which Peter del Vecho makes very clear the next few hand-drawn projects from Walt Disney Animation.

The last we heard about an animated The Snow Queen, I believe, was when Disney were last trying to develop it - perhaps as late as around March 2008. That appeared to be when it was last frozen (if you pardon the pun), following a few earlier dead ends, such as when Glen Keane infamously quit the project in 2003. Now, though, all signs are that the film is progressing nicely - though, at the moment, there’s no mention of it on the official Walt Disney Animation Studios site. I asked around - not actually at WDAS, but through the grapevine - and it seems that Alan Menken is working on the music for the film, possibly based on music he was developing for a stage production of the story. Nice.

This concept art is by Harald Sieperman, a concept artist working on the last iteration.

If you’re wondering why Peter mentioned neither Rapunzel nor The King of the Elves in the clip, it’s because those two are CG animated pictures and we were discussing hand-drawn movies only. Of course, they wouldn’t let me take pictures of any of it but I did see a great deal of Rapunzel and Elves concept art and, as expected, it all looks quite promising, to say the least. Rapunzel probably has the edge at this stage but it is some way further forward in development. Some of the Elves close ups had a vague Avatar vibe, which was unexpected.

There wasn’t much Winnie the Pooh artwork on show in any of the areas I was permitted to explore, but I did see some Milt Kahl Tigger poses prominently displayed on the walls. What better inspiration could the animators look to?

Stay tuned for another (more substantial) clip from my footage at the end of the week, seeing as The Princess and the Frog is going wide across the US on Friday 11th.

source: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/12/07/exc ... now-queen/

Post by **estefan** » December 8th, 2009, 9:10 am

Could Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise be directing Snow Queen? And since Disney seems to be reviving projects now, could this upcoming Clements/Musker film be Fraidy Cat? That's what I'm personally wondering.

Post by **robster** » December 8th, 2009, 9:14 am

I heard somewhere that possibly Mike Gabriel (director of Pocahontas) was directing Snow Queen. I REAAALLY hope they bring back "Fraidy Cat", that would be AWESOME as 2D, even though it was originally planned as a 3D feature film.

On a sidenote, I hope they ask Andreas Deja to do The Snow Queen herself, which would be his true first female villain, his Cruella. Especially since he never got to do Yzma, as originally was planned... And I wanna see Glen Keane animating in 2D again! Make the man draw again!

Post by **Jake** » December 8th, 2009, 3:46 pm

estefan wrote:Could Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise be directing Snow Queen? And since Disney seems to be reviving projects now, could this upcoming Clements/Musker film be Fraidy Cat? That's what I'm personally wondering.

I hope so. Clements/Musker would be more suited for Fraidy Cat. I was somewhat disappointed in the Princess and the Frog's visual style. I prefer Gary and Kirk's more epic, romantic flair which would be a good match for Snow Queen.

I'm just happy to have another 2D project confirmed, though.

Post by **EricJ** » December 8th, 2009, 7:14 pm

Jake wrote:
estefan wrote:Could Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise be directing Snow Queen? And since Disney seems to be reviving projects now, could this upcoming Clements/Musker film be Fraidy Cat? That's what I'm personally wondering.

Fraidy Cat might've looked like a step down for M&C if it'd come out originally, during the 00's Stainton "Brainf*rt Pet-Project" era, with everyone beating up on Home on the Range...
But if it came in today fresh off of Bolt, it would've looked like it wouldn't be missing a step.

Sometimes, projects just have to find their own sense of timing.

I prefer Gary and Kirk's more epic, romantic flair which would be a good match for Snow Queen.

Ehh...Gary & Kirk have an "epic, romantic flair" for their CHOICE of projects--Problem is, they can never deliver results on them, as they end up deploying the "Wacky Comedy-Relief" safety-nets way too early.
For every "romantic" scene fans gush over in B&B and Hunchback, I can still bring up traumas of cringe-worthy slapstick. And although "Atlantis" wasn't 100% their fault (ie. the budget), in a way (ie., endless wacky-supporting-character shtick)...it was.

Snow Queen is Andersen's "big" epic-sweep story, and one not too many know, and it needs a bit of sincerity--
Not to sound like an M&C fanboy, but there aren't many director teams who've been successfully able to master the story-sincerity thing that Disney bases its reputation on--Although Pocahontas has too many strikes going against it individually to judge Gabriel, and wouldn't mind seeing Eric Goldberg get another shot at the big time.

Post by **robster** » December 9th, 2009, 5:11 am

I just heard that on a blog they confirmed that Chris Buck is directing Snow Queen at the moment!

Post by **James** » December 9th, 2009, 12:14 pm

Aren't Gary and Kirk at DreamWorks now?