Madagascar

[Ben]

Hardly new? You joined <I>four days ago</I> and have posted but seven times!

<I>Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight</I>...

Unless you're a previous member who has rejoined under a new guise...?


On your points: I agree that there are thsoe who can't always buy when discs first hit shelves, just as I myself sometimes wait for a price drop on titles. But if I don't then get the original release with slipcases or little extras like that, I accept that this is the trade off in waiting.

If you've not had trouble findinf slipcases, good for you...means those discs are not selling that well in those locations so as to still have stock around. I wouldn't know about what the discs look like in the UK, I import everything in from the US. Let's just say some DWs discs come with color art...some don't. Gray silkscreen is a cost-cutting measure obviously. Since DWs movies were released by Paramount, all their titles have been gray, as it's Paramount policy. Geeze, the disc is stuck in a box or in a player, so why does it matter anyway!?

Bonus shorts: only <I>very rarely</I> are these not included on the main disc. Again, a cash-strapped DWs sometimes finds the way to make us pay more for their titles is to slap $5 extra on to have the short on an extra disc. But all the DWs titles I own have the approrpriate short on the same disc as the main feature.

Contacting DWs directly: I'm sure an old hand like you can do an internet search yourself...?

Language: I tried to be very nice to your first reply, and we've had enough angry people coming onto these boards so as to just start booting them off before they become a problem. When a new poster comes here and basically just starts ranting from the off, throwing around words like "crap" or "damn", it doesn't take a genius to see where that person's mindset is coming from. I only asked you to tone it down before that continued. I'm saying you have "a tone", but I think anyone would back me up and say that you've replied again with a pretty agressive attitude.

I'm not tainting you with this brush, but we have, here basically, had enough of the troublemakers and I'm more prone to booting them sooner rather than later. Please don't start coming back with counter argumentitive comments...we've seen it all before and don't have the time or inclination, frankly, to deal with it.

Just relax and enjoy yourself...we're pretty friendly around here and like to keep it so.

[Aaron_03]

I know this doesn't have to do with the topic, but what are your thoughts on Madagascar the Movie.


I just watch it on TV for the first time and I was wondering other people's POV on the movie.

I have heard bad things about it that it's random and that it's not a very good movie.

I also heard Escape 2 Africa was 5X better..............

[Christmas_Boy42]

“Hardly new? You joined four days ago and have posted but seven times!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Unless you're a previous member who has rejoined under a new guise...?”


Yep, I’ve been around these boards for over 10 years and we know each other quite well. This is an old colleague of your’s you still owe a favor to, Ben. J I haven’t been around in years because I’ve been busy launching my animation career.



“I agree that there are those who can't always buy when discs first hit shelves, just as I myself sometimes wait for a price drop on titles. But if I don't then get the original release with slipcases or little extras like that, I accept that this is the trade off in waiting.”


I’m just irritated that the Penguin Christmas short is advertised on my disc and it’s not there. I know where I can get some of the other bonus discs at a second hand shop though, just not this one.


By the way, how is that Shrek the Story so Far set from when Shrek 2 came out? Is it worth buying for the bonus disc and to get Shrek 3-d if you have the two features?



“If you've not had trouble finding slipcases, good for you...means those discs are not selling that well in those locations so as to still have stock around.”

I’ll say. I recently picked up those Indiana Jones reissues from last May and was able to find all three in the reflective slipcases with a little hunting.



“I wouldn't know about what the discs look like in the UK, I import everything in from the US. Let's just say some DWs discs come with color art...some don't. Gray silkscreen is a cost-cutting measure obviously. Since DWs movies were released by Paramount, all their titles have been gray, as it's Paramount policy. Geeze, the disc is stuck in a box or in a player, so why does it matter anyway!?”


I’m not worried about it but I did wonder if the first issues were in color and these replaced them.


Speaking of reissues, is the 1999 DVD of Antz pretty much the same content as the 2000’s reissue?


“Bonus shorts: only very rarely are these not included on the main disc. Again, a cash-strapped DWs sometimes finds the way to make us pay more for their titles is to slap $5 extra on to have the short on an extra disc. But all the DWs titles I own have the appropriate short on the same disc as the main feature.”


Does anyone have the opinion that Dreamworks animation could possibly fold within the next 10-15 years if they continue to run the course they‘re on? While going through these films I see a lot of mean spirited anti-Disney grudge in a lot of this work and I know the history behind that. They can only ride on a grudge and a pop culture wave for so long, right?



“Contacting DWs directly: I'm sure an old hand like you can do an internet search yourself...?”


Actually not.


“ Language: I tried to be very nice to your first reply, and we've had enough angry people coming onto these boards so as to just start booting them off before they become a problem. When a new poster comes here and basically just starts ranting from the off, throwing around words like "crap" or "damn", it doesn't take a genius to see where that person's mindset is coming from. I only asked you to tone it down before that continued. I'm saying you have "a tone", but I think anyone would back me up and say that you've replied again with a pretty agressive attitude.”


I am in no way aggressive and damn and crap are hardly swear words. Crap is not even considered to be a swear word over here and you can find damn in everything from Huck Finn to the speeches of Abraham Lincoln (not to mention Walt Disney). Well in the boundaries of PG I’d say. You find worse words in Dreamworks animated films, which this thread is all about.


“I'm not tainting you with this brush, but we have, here basically, had enough of the troublemakers and I'm more prone to booting them sooner rather than later. Please don't start coming back with counter argumentative comments...we've seen it all before and don't have the time or inclination, frankly, to deal with it.”


You’re much too sensitive. Don't tell me you don't understand the nature of we scottish people?


“Just relax and enjoy yourself...we're pretty friendly around here and like to keep it so.”


…unless someone disagrees with you, ay?


"I know this doesn't have to do with the topic, but what are your thoughts on Madagascar the Movie. "


I haven't screened it yet. I'm screening in release order and haven't got there yet.

[Ben]

Yep, I’ve been around these boards for over 10 years and we know each other quite well. This is an old colleague of your’s you still owe a favor to, Ben. J I haven’t been around in years because I’ve been busy launching my animation career.

Ahh...so it <I>is</I> you, Ed. We thought it was.

Still reading the boards even though we had to ban you for becoming outrageous way back when, eh? What made you decide to try again? And how's that animation career going?

I'm afraid, Ed, that within ten posts you're already skating on thin ice again.

You still want to ask our advice, but won't play the fair game. Sorry, bub...no dice. I asked you not to repeatedly use words that some may find offensive - wherever else they are used - and you throw them back right at me <I>twice</I>!? There <I>are</I> times and places for those words, as evidenced in the examples you provided, but no need for them in simply describing some disappointment that an animated cartoon short isn't on the DVD you bought. And especially again when the moderator of a forum has just asked you to refrain!

We're not sensitive, or maybe we are, but there's a reason lots of parents feel Animated News & Views is a safe site for their children to visit because we keep up the stringent rules that we do. We may be whiter than white, but I also think that's quite refreshing in a time when other boards are filled with nothing but back biters (and I am a quarter Scottish!).

And there are <I>plenty</I> of people who disagree with me here, but they do so eloquently and intelligently. But at the end of the day, this is <I>our</I> forum, and we can run it any way we wish. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Or didn't we already ask you to do that?

[Christmas_Boy42]

"Still reading the boards even though we had to ban you for becoming outrageous way back when, eh?"



I've NEVER been outrageous.


"What made you decide to try again?"


Where else would I find out the answer to my questions?


"And how's that animation career going?"


See for yourself: www.jill chill.com


"You still want to ask our advice, but won't play the fair game."


I ALWAYS play a fair game.

"Sorry, bub...no dice. I asked you not to repeatedly use words that some may find offensive - wherever else they are used - and you throw them back right at me twice!? There are times and places for those words, as evidenced in the examples you provided, but no need for them in simply describing some disappointment that an animated cartoon short isn't on the DVD you bought. And especially again when the moderator of a forum has just asked you to refrain!"


I NEVER use a word just to pepper my speech. There was a reason I used "damn" and "crap' (and who considers crap a swear word? That's just silly)


"We're not sensitive, or maybe we are, but there's a reason lots of parents feel Animated News & Views is a safe site for their children to visit"


Ironic when you find much worse in a Dreamworks film....


"because we keep up the stringent rules that we do. We may be whiter than white, but I also think that's quite refreshing in a time when other boards are filled with nothing but back biters (and I am a quarter Scottish!). "


I'm all for being whiter than white in your professional work but I don't censor my own words in places like this.


"And there are plenty of people who disagree with me here, but they do so eloquently and intelligently. But at the end of the day, this is our forum, and we can run it any way we wish. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Or didn't we already ask you to do that?"


What a nice friendly attitude you have here. I'd say you're treating me way out of line for no good reason.

[Ben]

Some choice quotes, in fairness as to explain why you are being booted again:

I've NEVER been outrageous.

I think you'll find you were extremely outrageous once before, hence being banned from our boards originally.

I NEVER use a word just to pepper my speech. There was a reason I used "damn" and "crap' (and who considers crap a swear word? That's just silly)

Okay...you may have reasoned the usage of those words in your original post, but since then I asked you to refrain from their use if unnecessary. Not only did you repeat them back to me, but you have just used them <I>again</I> here. That's three or four times you have just thrown words back at a moderator of a board for no other reason than to try and justify it. Basically, if we say you can't use the word "balloons" on this site, you can't use the word "balloons". It's our site. It's our rules. That you <I>continue</I> to use such words as we have asked you not to repeat <I>unless justified</I> shows that you have learned little to nothing about why you were banned once before.

Ironic when you find much worse in a Dreamworks film...

This is not a DreamWorks film. This is the Animated News & Views Forum. If Jeffrey Katzenberg wants to pepper his movies with "much worse" language so as to up the MPAA rating and make his movie more attractive to the cool kids, then that's up to him. We're trying to keep attractive to the families who allow their children free range on this site. There is "much worse" to be found in many more movies than those that DreamWorks makes, but that's not to say we condone those either.

I don't censor my own words in places like this.

The clearest indication yet that you have no manners, and therefore no reason to be polite, or willing or intending to follow our rules. "Places like this"...how derogatory and rude. Good job we're here to censor for you.

I'd say you're treating me way out of line for no good reason.

I'd say that you've just given us all the good reasons we need.



And one from me:

I tried to be very nice to your first reply, and we've had enough angry people coming onto these boards so as to just start booting them off before they become a problem. When a new poster comes here and basically just starts ranting from the off, it doesn't take a genius to see where that person's mindset is coming from. We have basically had enough of the troublemakers and I'm more prone to booting them sooner rather than later. Please don't start coming back with counter argumentative comments...we've seen it all before and don't have the time or inclination, frankly, to deal with it.

So...unfortunately, it's goodbye, Ed, for a second time.

[James]

Actually it is the third time!

For all the new readers who might think we have acted too hastily here please know that we've dealt with this guy before and that is why we acted so fast in this instance.

Knowing he would probably come back again and deny what he had done we've kept most of his outrageous posts online rather than delete them as we would usually do with stuff like what he wrote.

Here's the post that got him banned the first time:
(WARNING: extreme language)
http://www.animated-news.com/forum/view ... =3120#3120

Later he came back and created two new accounts that we banned immediately but did not delete so we could later show people what he had done if he were to come back and claim innocence. You can see those accounts by going to our member list and scrolling to the F's. (WARNING: more language)

Apologies to everyone for this distraction.

[GeorgeC]

James,

Nice to see you again after a long time! (Has been for me, at any rate!)

Sorry, it has to be on such an unpleasant note with Captain Meltdown...

Three times, huh? The site IS that popular after all!

[James]

I'm in the middle of buying a house which has severely limited my online time this month. We close in 10 days or less though so I'll be back more often very soon. Thanks for noticing my absense!

[LotsoA113]

They're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaackkkkk...by popular demand (can you feel the sarcasm)?


I adored the first MAdagascar, solely because it felt like a Looney Tunes cartoon, but much longer. IT had great animation, funny lines and soem inventive chracters. With the second, things just got too depressing and derivative. Frankly, I was hoping they'd stop. Obviously, I didn't get so lucky. This looks no better than the second and I'm seriously debating on paying money on seeing this one in theatres.

Oh..and yet ANOTHER esphianoge animated sequel? GUYS CMON!!!!

To be blunt a second, comparing this trailer to Brave...PIXAR hasn't just already won the summer, they've annihalated the competition into smitherens!!

[Randall]

Yeah, but... it's in 3D!



Seriously, though, there's not much in that trailer that appealed to me.

[Dacey]

I might be in the minority (well, so far) when I say this, but this actually looks a lot better than I was expecting it to. They may not be among DreamWorks Animation's best, but the "Madagascar" films do deliver in the laughs department, and this one looks no different. If nothing else, it should at least be fun.

They had me at "We have to get the penguins out of the casino."

[laughingoctopus]

I don't think this looks very good. The second one bored me, a third is quite unnecessary. But I love those penguins, so I'll watch.

[EricJ]

They're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaackkkkk...by popular demand (can you feel the sarcasm)?

No, but I'm definitely sensing a little irony in the title--
If only Ice Age could be so upfront and honest about itself.

[Ben]

I don't think this looks very good.

Best, most frank and straight simple put down EVER! Love it!